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Re: Cloud-based User Management for Web Apps

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I'm working on something like this, but installable on your own server. Subscribe here if you want to know when I release it: https://lists.codingrobots.net/?p=subscribe&id=3

Nice. I have subscribed to your mailing list. Will be interesting to see how you approach it :)

Re: Cloud-based User Management for Web Apps

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post #14

Why? Honestly, how can you "outsource" such a vital part of your web app to a third party? Not only is this a privacy disaster but also, if this user service goes down or has a temporary downtime, your own business is effectively unusable. I understand that it makes sense to not write these types of user functions and management things over and over again. The solution however, is not a SaaS, but a library or a littl…

I don't have a dog in this fight, but sometimes, companies are left with no other solutions. We had some websites hosted with Wordpress VIP. Because of their full page caching and just general restrictions, creating a login and user registration system like we wanted was not possible. We had to use a 3rd party hosted solutions that loaded with javascript(we used Gigya). Before that, I thought exactly as you do.

There is a reason Gigya just raised 25mm more dollars. Granted, they do more than just user login as a service.

Re: Cloud-based User Management for Web Apps

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post #12

$89 is not "about 18 bottles of beer."

I hate when companies compare their prices to food, beverages or entertainment ("cheaper than a cup of coffee!"). Unless your product is giving me the exact feelings and enjoyment that 18 bottles of beer would give, it's not a good comparison.

It feels like whoever is writing the copy is somehow belittling me. It's an overreaction, but I read it as, "you're a goddamn yuppie who would spend $4 on a cup of coffee. Why won't you buy your product, since your money seems to be burning a hole in your pocket?"

I hate to be negative, especially for something done in a lighthearted manner and probably as a parody of this trope in applications[1], but calling $649 a lot of pizza not only doesn't convince me, it makes me feel bad about myself—never a good idea to sell a product. Even cosmetics or fitness products are sold with a message of empowerment (you could look great!), not of belittlement (you look horrible, do something about it!).

[1]: Poe's law?

Re: Cloud-based User Management for Web Apps

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post #8

We just launched UserApp after 9 months of hard work. Please try it out and let us know what you think :)

Have you done any A/B testing on including text like "That's about 4 cups of coffee" in pricing pages? I found this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4394114

Hi, I'm the "front-end dev" of UserApp. No, I just went on my feeling on this one :) I actually got the idea from wrapbootstrap (e.g. https://wrapbootstrap.com/theme/ace-responsive-admin-templat...). Thanks for the link btw, I will check it out later!

Re: Cloud-based User Management for Web Apps

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I wish you the best of luck with this. It's really well designed.

I launched a very similar service named Accthub about 18 months ago and unfortunately it didn't fare well. Now, there's Mozilla Persona, Stormpath, Userapp, and probably several other in the same space.

Hope you can turn it into a legit business, but the general issue developers had was:

1) This is not a legit issue I have, my framework can handle this in the matter of a few minutes, maybe an hour or two if I want something really complex. 2) Privacy concerns. 3) High availability issues.

Best of luck, I will be monitoring your service closely because I want it to do well.

Re: Cloud-based User Management for Web Apps

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post #25
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This sounds pretty good at a first look - so why do you bury it somewhere deep in the help section?

Yeah its the number one concern with this type of product. So it might even be good to have a security section on the front page, to ease nerves.

OP here.

I totally agree. Don't know how we could miss putting it up there. I will see to it that this gets the attention it needs on the front page. Thanks! :)

Re: Cloud-based User Management for Web Apps

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Why? Honestly, how can you "outsource" such a vital part of your web app to a third party? Not only is this a privacy disaster but also, if this user service goes down or has a temporary downtime, your own business is effectively unusable. I understand that it makes sense to not write these types of user functions and management things over and over again. The solution however, is not a SaaS, but a library or a littl…

OP here. Exactly because of this reason, you should use us. We have built a low-latency HA platform. And it's our core business. This means that we will do it the best way possible. I can understand your concerns, but you could try us out on a smaller project to begin with. Or wait until we launch our licensed version which will allow you to install the system in your own environment. I.e. keeping the data safe with…

Honestly HA doesn't really tell anyone anything about what would be my bigger concern... security of the platform.

What kinds of IDS solution do you currently have in place for starters? Are you using a software or hardware IDS? How are you doing monitoring of the IDS logs and reporting?

Have you done penetration tests beyond some sort of SaaS utility and hired a third party company to run them with a skilled analyst? How are you sanitizing input from external applications as you have to assume the incoming requests are suspect, etc.

Re: Cloud-based User Management for Web Apps

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post #22
post #14

Why? Honestly, how can you "outsource" such a vital part of your web app to a third party? Not only is this a privacy disaster but also, if this user service goes down or has a temporary downtime, your own business is effectively unusable. I understand that it makes sense to not write these types of user functions and management things over and over again. The solution however, is not a SaaS, but a library or a littl…

You could say that about ANY cloud product though.

Yes, you could.

If it's apart of my service, I want it on my servers.

Re: Cloud-based User Management for Web Apps

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post #14

Why? Honestly, how can you "outsource" such a vital part of your web app to a third party? Not only is this a privacy disaster but also, if this user service goes down or has a temporary downtime, your own business is effectively unusable. I understand that it makes sense to not write these types of user functions and management things over and over again. The solution however, is not a SaaS, but a library or a littl…

Great job guys! I have a feature request: is it possible to also save private keys through your service?

I would like to run Javascript on the client that gets a user's private key from you, and decrypts their data on the client.

Do you have thoughts for something like this?

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