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Re: Ask PG: YC Founders over 30 yrs old

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It sounds like you were reading a lot into what we said. Jessica's remark was obviously a joke. And all I meant was that when you're trying to judge someone's achievements, you need to know how long they've had to achieve them. Would you hold a 20 year old to the same standard as a 30 year old?

I'd think there would be more of a drop off with opportunities like Y Combinator than there would be with other Angel investors. I'm surprised there are any at all. I guess it's still an excellent opportunity to meet people so I mean no offense to those over 30 who did sign up but I'm a 25 year old and I wouldn't pick up and move for $5,000 bucks. I always thought part of the lure of Y Combinator was that young folks…

I can't think of a 30 year old I know who has no obligations.

You haven't spent much time in San Francisco, then...

Re: Ask PG: YC Founders over 30 yrs old

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd think there would be more of a drop off with opportunities like Y Combinator than there would be with other Angel investors. I'm surprised there are any at all. I guess it's still an excellent opportunity to meet people so I mean no offense to those over 30 who did sign up but I'm a 25 year old and I wouldn't pick up and move for $5,000 bucks. I always thought part of the lure of Y Combinator was that young folks…

"I mean no offense to those over 30 who did sign up but I'm a 25 year old and I wouldn't pick up and move for $5,000 bucks" No offense taken (I was 32 when we accepted YC funding). But it wasn't for $5000. Nobody, at any age, (except for rdouble) is applying to YC for $5000. The reason to move is because you probably should be in the valley, if you're starting a technology startup that is going to need to raise money…

Nobody, at any age, is applying to YC for $5000.

Actually, money was a large part of the reason I applied to YC. I had a huge medical bill while uninsured last year and it wiped out a large chunk of my cash.

Re: Ask PG: YC Founders over 30 yrs old

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It sounds like you were reading a lot into what we said. Jessica's remark was obviously a joke. And all I meant was that when you're trying to judge someone's achievements, you need to know how long they've had to achieve them. Would you hold a 20 year old to the same standard as a 30 year old?

I'd think there would be more of a drop off with opportunities like Y Combinator than there would be with other Angel investors. I'm surprised there are any at all. I guess it's still an excellent opportunity to meet people so I mean no offense to those over 30 who did sign up but I'm a 25 year old and I wouldn't pick up and move for $5,000 bucks. I always thought part of the lure of Y Combinator was that young folks…

I think the lure of YC (and really, the startup game in general) tends towards people who don't like being tied down.

If you don't know people like that it's probably because you're not sampling from a pool of founders, but of people that have conformed to the more usual social paths.

Re: Ask PG: YC Founders over 30 yrs old

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I mean no offense to those over 30 who did sign up but I'm a 25 year old and I wouldn't pick up and move for $5,000 bucks" No offense taken (I was 32 when we accepted YC funding). But it wasn't for $5000. Nobody, at any age, (except for rdouble) is applying to YC for $5000. The reason to move is because you probably should be in the valley, if you're starting a technology startup that is going to need to raise money…

Nobody, at any age, is applying to YC for $5000. Actually, money was a large part of the reason I applied to YC. I had a huge medical bill while uninsured last year and it wiped out a large chunk of my cash.

Fixed.

Re: Ask PG: YC Founders over 30 yrs old

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody, at any age, is applying to YC for $5000. Actually, money was a large part of the reason I applied to YC. I had a huge medical bill while uninsured last year and it wiped out a large chunk of my cash.

Fixed.

Heh. Cool. By the way, if you need an iPhone app for Virtualmin, my contact info is in my profile. We got an interview but we didn't get the $5000. :)

Re: Ask PG: YC Founders over 30 yrs old

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Fixed.

Heh. Cool. By the way, if you need an iPhone app for Virtualmin, my contact info is in my profile. We got an interview but we didn't get the $5000. :)

You know the email address field doesn't appear in your profile, right? And your websites don't provide contact info.

Re: Ask PG: YC Founders over 30 yrs old

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It sounds like you were reading a lot into what we said. Jessica's remark was obviously a joke. And all I meant was that when you're trying to judge someone's achievements, you need to know how long they've had to achieve them. Would you hold a 20 year old to the same standard as a 30 year old?

It get's me thinking back to university, where there were a number of mature age students, most of whom were putting in much more than students on average. These people were obviously passionate, and had experiences in other industries. Not sure who to believe here. Also not sure if it's illegal where pg is to discriminate based on age. However it does seem that there's been a lot said about how people right out of c…

Yes, you are supposed to hold a 20 year old to the same standard as a 30 year old - otherwise it's discrimination.

This argument begs the question. To discriminate is to treat different things differently. The real question is whether age discrimination is justified, and despite the negative connotations "discrimination" has picked up, that's exactly what we're arguing here.

Re: Ask PG: YC Founders over 30 yrs old

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rescuetime is one example right off hand, also not sure how old Matt Moroon at draftMix is but def does not strike me as fresh out of college. sure there is a few more as well.

Someone posted a correction and I guess they've deleted it; but Matt's last name is "Maroon", not "Moroon".

And he's under 30 still. Was 26 when he went out to YC. Spread the word.

Re: Ask PG: YC Founders over 30 yrs old

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This thread (and the link to the Gladwell essay that someone submitted to it earlier) are interesting. I'm 39 years old, and want to start my own company and change my career from journalist to news technologist/entrepreneur. Some readers might chuckle at that, but I am very serious. In my mind, the question of the age of YC founders has much to do with the threshold for risk. Age definitely plays a part. But age doe…

Just replying to wish you good luck. It can be done, but the responsibility of a family does make it more difficult. (35, 2 kids)

Re: Ask PG: YC Founders over 30 yrs old

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There are quite a lot of founders over 30. I don't know exactly how many because we don't keep track of ages. The sharp falloff is around 35, but we've had a handful of founders over 40. None over 50 though. I think our age distribution is probably close to the age distribution for startups generally. We've funded more founders who are 27 than 20 or 35 because more people start startups at 27 than at 20 or 35.

We're planning on applying next year, by which time I'll be 49.5. Like Ben Fountain in the Gladwell essay, our success will be "highly contingent on the efforts of others."
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