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The Startup Life Is Not For Everyone

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Re: The Startup Life Is Not For Everyone

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"One thing that is not spoken about in the early-stage tech world is how many startup founders come from money or stability. I’m by no means saying this applies to all founders or early-stage startup employees. But if you dig a little, you will see the “risk” that some of these people are taking is not as risky as they may seem." This is really true. The business risk may be very real, but the personal risk for many…

Right. If I worked for a startup that went south, I'd be homeless.

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There are more lawyers than there are lawyering jobs. All the lawyer people I know are complaining and many are closing their offices because they can't get enough clients. Doctors can't get jobs because so many people are vying for the same jobs it's difficult to even get a specialty. Nobody will hire you without a specialty. Retail ... yeah, you're competing with everyone from high school students to college grads…

Europe isn't the only place to be a doctor or construction worker, ya know? Pretty much any doctor worth their salt can get a job in the US (we have a shortage of medical professionals) -- in fact, consider also RN's, hospitals have been putting out massive recruiting campaigns for RNs. Construction is booming here as well, depending on the region of course, but there is more construction work going around these days…

Regarding the medical profession, the same goes for Norway. Granted, you have to make sure your degree conforms to Norway's requirements, and you have to pass a test showing a basic level of Norwegian proficiency (and, I believe, another test for medical terms), but they're definitely hurting for people here.

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I honestly think that these days if you're young and are not an engineer or something similar that's got jobs chasing you, being an entrepreneur (not necessarily a startup) is the only option. Also, people in general believe their choices are the best choices and will go to great lengths to tell everyone that their own choices were better. Just one of those gorgeous biases we've got.

There's more to retail than shelf-stockers. Would you count running a brick-and-mortar store as being an entrepreneur?

Yes I would. Entrepreneur is, imho, anyone who doesn't get a paycheck from somebody else. Freelancer, startup founder, small business owner, artist selling stuff on etsy -> entrepreneurs the lot of 'em.

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As a 46 year old, white male with almost 20 years of IT experience, what I hear a lot of these startups saying is, "We don't really give a shit about you, your life or your time. We want to suck out a decades worth of input in 2-3 years and when you burn out, fuck you. Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out."

Who wants to live like that? These expectations will continue to gradually get WORSE...if you can imagine that. Until (and if) they run out of new recruits who don't know any better.

The fact that a startup founder tweeted "disappointment" about a very personal choice that a developer made makes me inclined to believe that I would run very, very, very far away from working for this person.

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Europe isn't the only place to be a doctor or construction worker, ya know? Pretty much any doctor worth their salt can get a job in the US (we have a shortage of medical professionals) -- in fact, consider also RN's, hospitals have been putting out massive recruiting campaigns for RNs. Construction is booming here as well, depending on the region of course, but there is more construction work going around these days…

Perspective really does depend on location. But I have a few friends who study medicine and they've all told me it's near impossible to get a job as a doctor because it's near impossible to get a specialty and nobody needs you without a specialty. All the while, the media has been blasting me with news of a humongous shortage of medical professionals - doctors in particular. Partly the difficult in getting a specialt…

I have no idea where you are located, but the English system involves a very linear path from graduation to junior doctors training in a variety of departments and a progression towards specialism.

You don't graduate and then go and compete for specialist jobs, it would be like my doing a degree in Business and expecting to be considered for senior management positions on graduation. So, I mean, are you saying that there are no jobs for Junior Doctors? That would be madness, because the first few years of work are really on the job learning without which there will be no new senior consultants.

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What's all this gunk about "startups aren't for everyone, they're HARD WORK"?? A big-company job is hard work too, if you're a driven person.

It's not about hard work, it's about how much of who you are must be devoted to the career. I work very hard at a 400 person company. but I get to go home after about 42-48 hours a week and enjoy being me. That involves chess, guitar, politics, and billiards. Founders and ground floor engineers ARE the business, the code, and the company.

Re: The Startup Life Is Not For Everyone

#39

"One thing that is not spoken about in the early-stage tech world is how many startup founders come from money or stability. I’m by no means saying this applies to all founders or early-stage startup employees. But if you dig a little, you will see the “risk” that some of these people are taking is not as risky as they may seem." This is really true. The business risk may be very real, but the personal risk for many…

Exactly. BBC wrote an article about that today: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23510961. Reality is you either have to be well off or kind of crazy.

Re: The Startup Life Is Not For Everyone

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"One thing that is not spoken about in the early-stage tech world is how many startup founders come from money or stability. I’m by no means saying this applies to all founders or early-stage startup employees. But if you dig a little, you will see the “risk” that some of these people are taking is not as risky as they may seem." This is really true. The business risk may be very real, but the personal risk for many…

Life is infinitely easier when you know, at the end of the day, no matter how bad you fuck up you still have your parents to fall back on versus if you fuck up, you're on the street. It adds a whole new layer of privilege.
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