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Tesla is unable to sell its vehicles directly to the public in Texas

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Re: Tesla is unable to sell its vehicles directly to the public in Texas

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"Prior to the filing deadline, Tesla Motors reached out to Sen. Craig Estes (R-Wichita Falls) and Rep. Eddie Rodriguez (D-Austin) who agreed to file bills on our behalf. These bills would permit U.S.-based manufacturers of 100% electric- or battery-powered vehicles to sell directly to Texas consumers." A silly band-aid to ridiculous legislation.

The band-aid is easier to pass.

Re: Tesla is unable to sell its vehicles directly to the public in Texas

#32
post #7

Ahh, The American Way (TM) When a competitor offers a better product that you, make what they are doing illegal rather than competing with them. Stopping innovation in America since the 70s.

Is "since the 70's" some sort of ironic joke? US industries were extremely and overtly anti-competitive up until the deregulation of the 1970's. If competition is restricted now, it was far worse in the past. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staggers_Rail_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_Carrier_Act_of_1980 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airline_Deregulation_Act

like Airbnb getting sued in New York?

or Uber/Lyft/etc having to go through extortionary-like procedures in California?

...

Re: Tesla is unable to sell its vehicles directly to the public in Texas

#34

I thought Texas was all about reducing regulations and welcoming new businesses.

q: How to tell when politician is lying?

a: His lips are moving.

Btw, "Financier" is a fascinating read and should be just used a main textbook for "Civics" class in schools on how the system works. I like this double-whammy :

"... Grund had been about, years before, purchasing through one or two brokers large amounts of the various kinds of Texas debt certificates and bonds. The Republic of Texas, in its struggle for independence from Mexico, had issued bonds and certificates in great variety, amounting in value to ten or fifteen million dollars. Later, in connection with the scheme to make Texas a State of the Union, a bill was passed providing a contribution on the part of the United States of five million dollars, to be applied to the extinguishment of this old debt. Grund knew of this, and also of the fact that some of this debt, owing to the peculiar conditions of issue, was to be paid in full, while other portions were to be scaled down, and there was to be a false or pre-arranged failure to pass the bill at one session in order to frighten off the outsiders who might have heard and begun to buy the old certificates for profit. ..."

Re: Tesla is unable to sell its vehicles directly to the public in Texas

#35

So, this might seem a silly question (I find the ban ludicrous but this is worth asking). Why not just allow certain dealers, approved by Musk himself for all that matters, to become 'authorized Tesla dealers'? Why does Tesla insist on direct-to-consumer sales, even to the point of not being able to do so in large marketplaces?

In addition to the "Apple business model," the Model S is an extraordinarily expensive car which is also quite a bit different from basically every other car on the market. As a hypothetical consumer, if I were to make such a monumental purchase for just a car, a car which is moreover out of the mainstream in terms of its basic method of operation, I'd want the absolute best service and support humanly possible for it, and I wouldn't expect to get that from a third-party dealer generally.

Re: Tesla is unable to sell its vehicles directly to the public in Texas

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is "since the 70's" some sort of ironic joke? US industries were extremely and overtly anti-competitive up until the deregulation of the 1970's. If competition is restricted now, it was far worse in the past. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staggers_Rail_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_Carrier_Act_of_1980 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airline_Deregulation_Act

like Airbnb getting sued in New York? or Uber/Lyft/etc having to go through extortionary-like procedures in California? ...

>or Uber/Lyft/etc having to go through extortionary-like procedures in California?

Forgive me for not knowing all the details, but what is the extortion in the fact that Taxi co's have to pay fees that Uber and Lyft don't? I'm guessing there is more to this than I know.

Re: Tesla is unable to sell its vehicles directly to the public in Texas

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is "since the 70's" some sort of ironic joke? US industries were extremely and overtly anti-competitive up until the deregulation of the 1970's. If competition is restricted now, it was far worse in the past. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staggers_Rail_Act https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_Carrier_Act_of_1980 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airline_Deregulation_Act

like Airbnb getting sued in New York? or Uber/Lyft/etc having to go through extortionary-like procedures in California? ...

I'm not arguing that US is universally free-market today, rather that it was less free-market 50 years ago.

Re: Tesla is unable to sell its vehicles directly to the public in Texas

#39
post #37

Is it correct to assume a Texas resident may order one from another dealer and drive it home? Can they just drive it home and legally have it registered in Texas?

That's basically what Tesla already does, although they'll ship it so you don't have to drive it from the factory.
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