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Ubuntu Edge is dead, long live Ubuntu phones

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Re: Ubuntu Edge is dead, long live Ubuntu phones

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"Since the campaign didn't meet its funding requirement, refunds will be processed to backers within five business days, Canonical said." Do you think Indiegogo made interest on that 12 million dollars over the past month? If so, how much?

I thought it was just an authorisation on the card, I didn't think they took the actual money?

No, they did. My available balance has been deducted and the transaction is fully shown.

Re: Ubuntu Edge is dead, long live Ubuntu phones

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There is something I can't understand. They couldn't produce a really necessary Ubuntu laptop and they think they will be able to create a phone that doubles as netbook. They are deluded. I'll soon have to buy a new laptop. I really would like to buy an "Ubuntu Air" laptop, if it existed. But it doesn't. Those that wan't to buy an Ubuntu laptop (or any other linux laptop) must study all the components of the computer…

check out the Lenovo X1 Carbon

Looks like a nice machine, generally, but then we get to the screen size: 1600x900. Pathetic. The new Nexus 7, for $230, has more pixels.

Re: Ubuntu Edge is dead, long live Ubuntu phones

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There is something I can't understand. They couldn't produce a really necessary Ubuntu laptop and they think they will be able to create a phone that doubles as netbook. They are deluded. I'll soon have to buy a new laptop. I really would like to buy an "Ubuntu Air" laptop, if it existed. But it doesn't. Those that wan't to buy an Ubuntu laptop (or any other linux laptop) must study all the components of the computer…

>At the end, I will probably buy a Mac. I have a baby and I don't have time to spend configuring wireless card drivers for days.

True. The most compelling reason not to get a Mac for me is price, but if someone told you that for $500 they would come over and fix your daily GNU/Linux headaches (say 2 hours a week, that's 312 hours over 3 years) you'd hire them in a heartbeat.

Re: Ubuntu Edge is dead, long live Ubuntu phones

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post #18

There is something I can't understand. They couldn't produce a really necessary Ubuntu laptop and they think they will be able to create a phone that doubles as netbook. They are deluded. I'll soon have to buy a new laptop. I really would like to buy an "Ubuntu Air" laptop, if it existed. But it doesn't. Those that wan't to buy an Ubuntu laptop (or any other linux laptop) must study all the components of the computer…

The Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition, which has Ubuntu preinstalled, is as close to "Ubuntu Air" as it gets. Don't like it?

I just went over to the XPS 13 site, and I found this amusing image:

http://i.dell.com/sites/imagecontent/products/PublishingImag...

Re: Ubuntu Edge is dead, long live Ubuntu phones

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The phone was too expensive and the risk too high that at the time it is delivered it would be outdated. Here in France we have a company configuring and selling wiko smartphones (made in china) which are very cheap for their capacity. Offering Ubuntu on such cheap phones could be a better way to get adopted by the Ubuntu community that doesn't have the money to buy Apple or windows computer. People would be much mor…

Ubuntu Edge isn't a straight-forward phone OS though - it was intended to be a desktop/laptop replacement in a phone-sized package (run the Phone UI when disconnected, run a "desktop" UI when connected to an external monitor/keyboard/mouse). So a cheap piece of hardware would not be sufficient.

Re: Ubuntu Edge is dead, long live Ubuntu phones

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post #18

There is something I can't understand. They couldn't produce a really necessary Ubuntu laptop and they think they will be able to create a phone that doubles as netbook. They are deluded. I'll soon have to buy a new laptop. I really would like to buy an "Ubuntu Air" laptop, if it existed. But it doesn't. Those that wan't to buy an Ubuntu laptop (or any other linux laptop) must study all the components of the computer…

https://www.system76.com/laptops/model/galu1 No?

I don't think the sell or offer support in Spain.

Re: Ubuntu Edge is dead, long live Ubuntu phones

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

sigh Not this FUD again. Ubuntu will work well on pretty much any single-graphics Ultrabook currently on the market. Can we leave the wifi problems complaints in previous decade where they belong?

Yeah, this is not FUD. I have a thinkpad edge running Ubuntu (and I tried a few other distros). Both the Broadcom wifi and the AMD graphics are very wonky. Broadcom worked, but a kernel upgrade broke it. AMD driver works, kind of, but not when I plug in an external screen. I had it fail on me during a presentation I was giving. Next time I'll use my macbook, just to be safe. Obviously I don't blame Ubuntu. I blame my…

A general rule for good Linux support (not just Ubuntu) is to avoid Broadcom wifi. Get Intel wifi, and Intel graphics. Or, as you say, something that is Ubuntu certified.

Re: Ubuntu Edge is dead, long live Ubuntu phones

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post #18

There is something I can't understand. They couldn't produce a really necessary Ubuntu laptop and they think they will be able to create a phone that doubles as netbook. They are deluded. I'll soon have to buy a new laptop. I really would like to buy an "Ubuntu Air" laptop, if it existed. But it doesn't. Those that wan't to buy an Ubuntu laptop (or any other linux laptop) must study all the components of the computer…

The Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition, which has Ubuntu preinstalled, is as close to "Ubuntu Air" as it gets. Don't like it?

That could be an option. But, I once bought a Dell Mini 12 with Ubuntu pre-installed and it was a nightmare. It used a modified version of Ubuntu (with ad-hoc repositories hosted by Canonical) with an unstable binary blob. Therefore, not only it didn't work well, it wasn't upgradable! If I buy a XPS13, will I get stuck with Ubuntu 12.04 for life? Will Ubuntu test its new version (at least the LTS ones) with this machine? If I buy a Mac, I'll be sure that it is upgradable for a long time and that Apple will support it.

Edited to add a link to my own account of the facts (2008): http://bits.quintanasegui.com/2008/12/30/dell-sells-ubuntu-b...

Re: Ubuntu Edge is dead, long live Ubuntu phones

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post #18

There is something I can't understand. They couldn't produce a really necessary Ubuntu laptop and they think they will be able to create a phone that doubles as netbook. They are deluded. I'll soon have to buy a new laptop. I really would like to buy an "Ubuntu Air" laptop, if it existed. But it doesn't. Those that wan't to buy an Ubuntu laptop (or any other linux laptop) must study all the components of the computer…

sigh Not this FUD again. Ubuntu will work well on pretty much any single-graphics Ultrabook currently on the market. Can we leave the wifi problems complaints in previous decade where they belong?

This is not FUD. These are real experiences from real people.

Re: Ubuntu Edge is dead, long live Ubuntu phones

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

check out the Lenovo X1 Carbon

Looks like a nice machine, generally, but then we get to the screen size: 1600x900. Pathetic. The new Nexus 7, for $230, has more pixels .

Do you sit closer to your laptop than to your phone? I know in general I don't, and whilst I can certainly appreciate the quality inherent in a very high resolution screen I'm not clamouring for one. I got a MBA 13" over a MBPr as I thought the screen difference wasn't high enough for the tradeoffs.
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