Are we going to have a movie about Norman Borlaug, Dennis Richie or Douglas Engelbart as well? What made the movie industry pick Jobs as the topic? I honestly don't understand it.
A movie about Douglas Engelbart has my vote.
What the Steve Jobs movie got right, and wrong
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Unless you can sell their stories in the time proven 127 minute, 2 peaks setup and market them to a major studio, I doubt it will get any traction. The only other option would be that the people who care about it fund it, but even though that pool might seem large inside of the tech microcosmos, it's comparitively small, and you'll have a low budget movie that has trouble being shown in theaters. Engelbart could actu…
Made a lot of sense, thanks for the writeup. Probably I am just silly for not understanding why our society doesn't cherish people who had so much more impact on our lives.
Well, you can spin it that way, but trying to say that Apple had no impact on lives of many people would not be fair. And more importantly that impact was quite recent. iPod and ITMS early 2000, iPhone 2007, iPad 2013. Another point is, you can experience those products directly. You can see, touch and use them. Joe User does not see and touch C.
Yes, nobody denies the importance of C. But honestly, can you say what Ritchie was working on for the last 25 years?
The claim, that withous C we would be in the stone age of the computing is as credible as the claim, that without Jobs we would not have web, because it was developed on NeXT machine. And early Mac system was written in Pascal…
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#33From the trailers & preview material I was worried the movie might be deceptive. Specifically the scenes with Woz and Jobs in the parking lot and later in the office. In an interview Wozniak said the parking lot conversation never took place and got the underlying feelings incorrect. That made me jump to the conclusion that the preview's portrayal of the office scene where Woz leaves Apple would be equally misleading…
Pirates of Silicon was great, not just Jobs/Woz, but the rivalry with Gates and IBM. I felt it covered most bases pretty well, not sure I have much need to watch this.
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Yes, I was not surprised to learn Steve Jobs and Larry Ellison were good friends.
At least Jobs had taste. One of them gave us Apple, the other, Oracle. Not hard to pick a winner.
Oracle is what it is, but your initial assertion is a matter of taste.
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Can you honestly name other people in the computer business that during their lives lived with that much charisma http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charisma as Steve Jobs? His life is up to the very end the stuff many a film can be made of. Imagine just one of the most recent the scenes: being on the hospital bed weighting like 50 pounds and rejecting the medicine equipment that was "not designed nicely enough!" Even his…
Its not because you have charisma that it necessarily means you use it in a positive way in the world. Drm, walled gardens, patent mentality, i can name a few reasons why Jobs should not be glorified.
Not every film protagonist is there as a positive role model. Especially not in every his aspect. It would be more than boring. Pragmatically, often are the "bad guys" even more attractive for the film that wants to have more viewers. The producers want to push the viewers' emotions.
I'm claiming again: even Jobs' bad sides are very thankful for films! Hey, we're talking about the guy who drove without the license plates and parked at the parking areas for those with disabilities. Absolutely perfect for a movie.
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Made a lot of sense, thanks for the writeup. Probably I am just silly for not understanding why our society doesn't cherish people who had so much more impact on our lives.
Well, you can spin it that way, but trying to say that Apple had no impact on lives of many people would not be fair. And more importantly that impact was quite recent. iPod and ITMS early 2000, iPhone 2007, iPad 2013. Another point is, you can experience those products directly. You can see, touch and use them. Joe User does not see and touch C. Yes, nobody denies the importance of C. But honestly, can you say what…
iPod came out in 2001, the iTunes Music Store was opened in 2003, iPad was released in 2010. I would also add iMac (1998) and WebKit (2003) to the list, as they too have had quite an impact on the market overall.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unless you can sell their stories in the time proven 127 minute, 2 peaks setup and market them to a major studio, I doubt it will get any traction. The only other option would be that the people who care about it fund it, but even though that pool might seem large inside of the tech microcosmos, it's comparitively small, and you'll have a low budget movie that has trouble being shown in theaters. Engelbart could actu…
Made a lot of sense, thanks for the writeup. Probably I am just silly for not understanding why our society doesn't cherish people who had so much more impact on our lives.
Because most people are obsessed with the popular kids at high school. Which I will wager you didn't understand either, or you wouldn't be commenting on HN :)
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#38Did anyone see an early or midnight showing on here? As I would love to hear your reviews, bc right now, RottenTomatoes has this movie at a 25% rating
[I saw it back at Sundance.]
The critics are pretty harsh on it, but if you're at all interested in the subject matter, it's definitely worth seeing. I thought it was flawed but interesting.
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#39Are we going to have a movie about Norman Borlaug, Dennis Richie or Douglas Engelbart as well? What made the movie industry pick Jobs as the topic? I honestly don't understand it.
They did make a Richard Feynman biopic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity_(film)
Re: What the Steve Jobs movie got right, and wrong
#40Are we going to have a movie about Norman Borlaug, Dennis Richie or Douglas Engelbart as well? What made the movie industry pick Jobs as the topic? I honestly don't understand it.
Who, who, and who?