Talking about privacy. Why use services like Scribd ? A simple link to the pdf file hosted somewhere else would have suffice. I then can do my searches locally without them tracking exactly what I do (who views what, who searches what). SASS (Service as Software Substitute) is evil...
Google says e-mail users should have no legitimate expectation of privacy
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Re: Google says e-mail users should have no legitimate expectation of privacy
#32Talking about privacy. Why use services like Scribd ? A simple link to the pdf file hosted somewhere else would have suffice. I then can do my searches locally without them tracking exactly what I do (who views what, who searches what). SASS (Service as Software Substitute) is evil...
Re: Google says e-mail users should have no legitimate expectation of privacy
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
>>Anyone still using Google services since the NSA revelations is an idiot Care to name a good alternative then? And a good way to notify hundreds of people and companies to change my address to a new one,and convince dozens of friends to stop using hangouts and use X instead?
Sure, no problem. Gmail: Self-hosted qmail or exim Google Maps: OpenStreetMap Hangouts: Jitsi Android: Firefox OS Search: Startpage Chrome: Firefox Google Drive: ownCloud
Suggesting people use a self-hosted email server in place of gmail is trolling on the level of "Install Gentoo".
Re: Google says e-mail users should have no legitimate expectation of privacy
#34So - encrypt everything and send the keys trough snail mail? They can't read legally the mail right?
PKI specifically means you don't have to rely on secure key transfer. Encrypt everything, and post your public key on any keyserver you choose. There is very little sensitive information in a public key (though it can tie you socially to another party, in a cryptographically strong manner, for those who are concerned about such things). But the point is that an out-of-band and secure key transfer isn't required.
Re: Google says e-mail users should have no legitimate expectation of privacy
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'll take "Because Google's entire business model around email is processing it to serve relevant ads next to it, which requires that they be able to read it" for $1000, Alex.
They could still do that in a secure way, client-side, if they wanted: when content is displayed in-browser, javascript could parse it, send home relevant words (on an encrypted channel), and receive relevant ads. The server would have to ensure that data is not saved, or it's anonymously aggregated right away -- you'll have to trust their word on that, but that'll always be the case. Computationally expensive, maybe…
Re: Google says e-mail users should have no legitimate expectation of privacy
#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure, no problem. Gmail: Self-hosted qmail or exim Google Maps: OpenStreetMap Hangouts: Jitsi Android: Firefox OS Search: Startpage Chrome: Firefox Google Drive: ownCloud
> Gmail: Self-hosted qmail or exim Suggesting people use a self-hosted email server in place of gmail is trolling on the level of "Install Gentoo".
Re: Google says e-mail users should have no legitimate expectation of privacy
#37Anyone still using Google services since the NSA revelations is an idiot. I'd like to see them bankrupt after their betrayal of their do-no-evil and open source roots.
I still use google services. I'm conscious of what happens, much before the NSA revelations this year. I use 8.8.8.8 for DNS on some networks (for external resolution and for nagios) knowing perfectly that each request is registered and extrapolated. I use an apple macbook air for some tasks, even if I know I've no control over many privacy issues in such machine. On the other side, I've had offline networks for some…
Re: Google says e-mail users should have no legitimate expectation of privacy
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Gmail: Self-hosted qmail or exim Suggesting people use a self-hosted email server in place of gmail is trolling on the level of "Install Gentoo".
Sorry, I thought this was _hacker_ news. Setting up self-hosted email is utterly trivial.