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Re: Free Schnail Mail for life

#31
This is a far better mockery/attack on Google's strategy than Microsoft's Scroogle campaign ever was. They should learn from this. I especially loved the cute & funny one-liners.

(Not that I support Scroogle, it's a cheap shot. I hate negative marketing. It's setting a bad example in tech, which has mostly kept the negative marketing away.)

Re: Free Schnail Mail for life

#33
post #23

Google could offer a $20/month no-ads no-tracking email service. How many privacy conscious people are willing to pay that? Its not Google deciding to do this, its just ourselves.

Google does offer a $5/month no-ads email service called Google Apps.

According to their homepage, 5 million businesses have chosen that.

http://www.google.com/enterprise/apps/business/

No tracking is trickier, who would believe Google (or any business) if they claimed they didn't track their customers? The lack of ads you can verify for yourself.

Re: Free Schnail Mail for life

#35

This is just a re-hash of Microsoft's Scroogled campaign ( http://www.scroogled.com ). Just as with scroogled, the comparison of a human reading your mail with a machine analysing the contents in order to provide focussed advertising results in a complete loss of credibility.

Why does putting a human in the loop change anything? Either way, my data is being used on behalf of other people.

Re: Free Schnail Mail for life

#36
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't matter, the information is there. He mentions building a profile. While the machines might have built it, there's nothing stopping a real person (forced or otherwise) from browsing those profiles.

"The information is there" on all e-mail providers. There is nothing (short of end-to-end encryption) stopping a real person at any e-mail provider from looking at your email. The interesting distinction (for me, and I have been a happy GMail "customer" for close to a decade soon) isn't the profile, it's the human. I have strong faith that Google can be successful in keeping humans from reading my e-mail (or a comput…

Not always. Several new security-oriented email providers boast diskless email servers and end-to-end encryption.

Re: Free Schnail Mail for life

#37
post #5

Machine "reading" the email != humans reading the same thing A machine can't laugh at your embarrassing confession. Nor can a machine talk about your letter to its friends. For either of these things to happen with gmail would require serious risk and effort on part of an employee.

It had already happened: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/09/google-spy/

Google acknowledged Wednesday that two employees have been terminated after being caught in separate incidents allegedly spying on user e-mails and chats.

David Barksdale, 27, was fired in July after he reportedly accessed the communications of at least four minors with Google accounts, spying on Google Voice call logs, chat transcripts and contact lists, according to Gawker, which broke the story Wednesday.

Google has acknowledged that it fired Barksdale for violating company privacy policy, and acknowledged that it was the second such incident of its kind at the company.

Re: Free Schnail Mail for life

#38
post #5

Machine "reading" the email != humans reading the same thing A machine can't laugh at your embarrassing confession. Nor can a machine talk about your letter to its friends. For either of these things to happen with gmail would require serious risk and effort on part of an employee.

>A machine can't laugh at your embarrassing confession. Nor can a machine talk about your letter to its friends.

To its friends at the NSA? I beg to differ.

Re: Free Schnail Mail for life

#39
This is the guy that did an expenses paid tech talk where one of the big sponsors is heavily involved in the gambling industry, and then proceeded to publicly bitch out another speaker for doing a talk on technical hurdles of some kind of sports betting platform because betting companies are evil. Can't really have any less respect for someones opinion or thoughts when they are so ill-mannered and hypocritical.

Re: Free Schnail Mail for life

#40
post #23

Google could offer a $20/month no-ads no-tracking email service. How many privacy conscious people are willing to pay that? Its not Google deciding to do this, its just ourselves.

Google does offer a $5/month no-ads email service called Google Apps. According to their homepage, 5 million businesses have chosen that. http://www.google.com/enterprise/apps/business/ No tracking is trickier, who would believe Google (or any business) if they claimed they didn't track their customers? The lack of ads you can verify for yourself.

No ads is already free. Just you IMPAP or POP3. You are still tracked, but there are no ads.
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