Tell HN: Hacker News is almost reddit • Hacker News Board

Re: Tell HN: Hacker News is almost reddit

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Post by dbul » Thu, May 14, 2009, 5:43 PM UTC

colins_pride wrote: post #20

cjc wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can the downvoters please explain why you are voting me down?

If they could vote your submission down, they would. They can't, so they're voting your comments down. If that doesn't make sense to you, just give it a few more minutes and the submission will probably be flagged dead.

This is exactly one of the problems. People downvote because it is how they feel not because there is any logic to it. Unless the negative points reaches threshold, it is suspect. Downvoting should also consist of a comment as to why. When a professor marks your paper wrong, does he not place things on it like "W.C." and so on? How are people supposed to learn from their mistakes if they think what they wrote was reasonable yet some HN user comes along, misunderstands what was written, and just votes it down?

Re: Tell HN: Hacker News is almost reddit

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Post by dbul » Thu, May 14, 2009, 6:01 PM UTC

cjc wrote: post #7

noodle wrote: post #2

what would you prefer?

Glad you asked: * more news about Startups, less news about things tangentially related to startups * less churn on the homepage * a community made exclusively of people actually building websites * a limit on accepting new members * less talk about useless academic subjects * more "review my new project" submissions

In the end, what it comes down to is that you want something (which I also want, except for limiting new members) which is personalized. I couldn't agree more. HN is too general. There needs to be a way to customize, and only a client-side script won't do.

Re: Tell HN: Hacker News is almost reddit

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Post by pg » Thu, May 14, 2009, 6:07 PM UTC

cjc wrote: post #7

noodle wrote: post #2

what would you prefer?

Glad you asked: * more news about Startups, less news about things tangentially related to startups * less churn on the homepage * a community made exclusively of people actually building websites * a limit on accepting new members * less talk about useless academic subjects * more "review my new project" submissions

I think you're just at the wrong site. A community made exclusively of people building websites would exclude a lot of smart and interesting people. That's only a small subset of hackers, even in the narrow sense of the word.

Re: Tell HN: Hacker News is almost reddit

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Post by jemmons » Fri, May 15, 2009, 2:30 PM UTC

cjc wrote: post #16

kyro wrote: post #3

You've only made 3 submissions yourself. HN isn't a service being provided to you, whereby you sit and expect it to present you with interesting stories.

Can the downvoters please explain why you are voting me down?

I downvoted you because you quickly played the "personal attack" card in the same breath as you laid all the blame for what you perceive as a slide in HN quality at the feet of those who upvote different stories than you would -- which amounts to a personal attack. The obvious loop in your argument makes your comment uninteresting.

Re: Tell HN: Hacker News is almost reddit

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Post by jemmons » Fri, May 15, 2009, 2:34 PM UTC

cjc wrote: post #21

chaostheory wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think what kyro is trying to say is, if you don't like what you see on HN - why not submit the type of articles you'd like to see, hopefully starting a trend? imho it doesn't help that your post sounds more like whiny bitching than constructive criticism

Fair enough, and I agree with that. but look at the behavior of the community right now. The highest voted comment on this post is basically a "screw you dude" and all of my responses are downvoted without any reasons given. Below in comments I stated what I personally would like to see change, but that too is downvoted without explanation. These reactions are reinforcing my original point: Though many precautions we…

You essentially just called a community stupid. When provoked with such nonconstructive criticism, I'm not sure why you would expect said community to respond with anything but "No, you're stupid."

Re: Tell HN: Hacker News is almost reddit

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Post by wkdown » Fri, May 15, 2009, 9:40 PM UTC

noonespecial wrote: post #4

Whenever I think HN is becoming too reddit-like, I go spend some time on reddit. I always feel better after.

Unfortunately, Digg users found 4Chan, who found Reddit, who found HN. It's going to happen.

As a former Digg and current Reddit user, I'm happy to have found HN. The comments are (for the most part) well thought out and intelligent here.