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David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

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Re: David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

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Are there any real studies on the "corrosive influence" of porn on children? I'm pretty sure every young teen boy has seen porn these days. The only actual studies I'm aware of say that porn reduces actually violent sex crimes. It acts as a substitute.

Teen pregnancy is also way down: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db89.pdf

Re: David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

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There is an awful lot of populist policies coming out of the UK for the last couple of years. Is the current state of the economy really that bad?

Usually that's when politicians concentrate on less demanding, more emotional issues.

Also, nice power-grab right there - cause you never know!

"Sorry Angela, I can't open that WikiLeaks link you told me about." "Nigel, could it be that you forgot to let your porn filter be lifted?"

This is bad and as always not only for UK citizens because politicians like to look at other countries for inspiration and validation. Clearly in Austria some pundits will applaud this.

Re: David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

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post #16

Are there any real studies on the "corrosive influence" of porn on children? I'm pretty sure every young teen boy has seen porn these days. The only actual studies I'm aware of say that porn reduces actually violent sex crimes. It acts as a substitute.

Citation, please? Everything I've seen suggests that porn is pretty socially debilitating, especially for the current generation which has grown up with almost ubiquitous access to it (see for example http://www.internetsafety101.org/upload/file/Social%20Costs%... ). And that's not even the really nasty stuff.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=the-sunny-s...

> For most people, pornography use has no negative effects—and it may even deter sexual violence

Re: David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

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> challenging the eroticisation of violence against women and girls

I wonder what the legal tests for that are here? Non-consensual fantasies are very popular among women who don't actually want to be victims of crimes. Will they ban romance novels?

Then next they could go after the female fandoms for Loki from the Avengers movie, yandere characters, and those girls who write love letters to serial killers. Okay, maybe the last ones could use some help.

Re: David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

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> Every household in Britain connected to the internet will be obliged to declare whether they want to maintain access to online pornography These declarations will only be used to shame public figures once the list is leaked. > The possession of "extreme pornography", which includes scenes of simulated rape, is to be outlawed. Video footage of two consenting adults, acting out a scene, will be illegal to own. With t…

> > The possession of "extreme pornography", which includes scenes of simulated rape, is to be outlawed.

> Video footage of two consenting adults, acting out a scene, will be illegal to own. With this on the books, it seems a short hop to outlaw videos of simulated murder.

Even without such an extension, aren't there plenty of Hollywood movies which include "scenes of simulated rape"?

Re: David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

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post #32

There is an awful lot of populist policies coming out of the UK for the last couple of years. Is the current state of the economy really that bad? Usually that's when politicians concentrate on less demanding, more emotional issues. Also, nice power-grab right there - cause you never know! "Sorry Angela, I can't open that WikiLeaks link you told me about." "Nigel, could it be that you forgot to let your porn filter b…

The UK economy is in abysmal shape, in large part due to the failure of Cameron's austerity measures. But there can be no admission of error, just deflection: hey look, porn!

More info: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/23/magazine/god-save-the-brit...

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> Every household in Britain connected to the internet will be obliged to declare whether they want to maintain access to online pornography These declarations will only be used to shame public figures once the list is leaked. > The possession of "extreme pornography", which includes scenes of simulated rape, is to be outlawed. Video footage of two consenting adults, acting out a scene, will be illegal to own. With t…

> > The possession of "extreme pornography", which includes scenes of simulated rape, is to be outlawed. > Video footage of two consenting adults, acting out a scene, will be illegal to own. With this on the books, it seems a short hop to outlaw videos of simulated murder. Even without such an extension, aren't there plenty of Hollywood movies which include "scenes of simulated rape"?

I can't speak to Hollywood, but this presumably means it will be illegal to watch "Irreversable" online.

Still, it's a handy way to tar anyone complaining about online survellience as a rape-loving pedophile.

Re: David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

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TL;DR - "Yea I guess, but..."

Personally I don't have huge a problem with the default filtering; most households (with or without kids) don't have the knowledge to effectively enable filtering for all their devices - giving them 'protection' by default, and allowing the option to have full access is currently what most - maybe all - mobile phone operators do in the UK anyway in 3G/GSM connections.

However, its important that the opt-out is incredibly straight forward - an online form for example (ideally during signup with a new provider) - no need for 'humiliating' phone calls where you have to explain why you want to see Super Army of Boob 2, for example.

I do wonder what this will mean when accessing sites like The Pirate Bay - which often have boobs-a-plenty in the sidebar ads. Does it mean that people who visit sites that happen to have 'pornographic' ads ALSO need the filtering off.

My bigger concern here is that these measures will very likely do nothing to stem child pornography (and I would hazard a guess sexual abuse in general); my reasoning is that I don't imagine your average paedophile just opens their vanilla browser in the morning and Googles for '[child related sex terms]' - surely this kind of activity hides behind systems such as Tor?

One other thing that springs to mind; presumably, unless there is explicit legislation against this, ISPs can now sell your filter preferences for marketing purposes; perhaps putting you in some 'boxes' you wouldn't want to be in.

Re: David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

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> Every household in Britain connected to the internet will be obliged to declare whether they want to maintain access to online pornography These declarations will only be used to shame public figures once the list is leaked. > The possession of "extreme pornography", which includes scenes of simulated rape, is to be outlawed. Video footage of two consenting adults, acting out a scene, will be illegal to own. With t…

> > The Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (CEOP) is to draw up a blacklist of "abhorrent" internet search terms to identify and prevent paedophiles searching for illegal material.

> A single search can now land you on a government list of accused pedophiles.

Also, I foresee a sudden rise in rickrolling along the line of:

    Funny Cat Video!

Re: David Cameron cracks down on online pornography

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If you want to try and do something about this, donate to the UK equivalent to the EFF, the Open Rights Group[1]. See their rather sane and well thought out views on this here[2]

[1] - http://www.openrightsgroup.org/

[2] - https://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2013/cameron-demands-ac...

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