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How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Tenure-track-faculty Life

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Re: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Tenure-track-faculty Life

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The author of this article is a friend and former colleague (I had the office next door to hers at Harvard, when I was on the faculty there). Many of the reasons she cites for being "miserable" as a faculty member reflect why I left a tenured faculty job for industry. Nearly all junior faculty I know describe it as a survival process. Given this I fail to understand why being a professor remains such an attractive ca…

What's scary is that this represents a fairly luxurious set of pain-points relative to the ones I've seen junior faculty members in the biological sciences exposed to at Harvard. The conveniences and cultural differences of the CS community are a stark contrast to academic biology. Considering the author's observations: First, the opt-out options are often fewer and further between; making the jump between basic scie…

>Then, as a biologist, it can be incredibly difficult to restrict your working hours, as experimental (e.g. cell culture) work can operate with delays or intervals. Stepping out at the wrong time means your cells die.

That's where personnel management comes in. I've got an undergrad intern at the moment, who has only a modest amount of lab research experience. In a month and a half, I've taught him molecular biology from scratch (beginning with the fundamentals of PCR) and from what i taught him, I gave him a list of 48 mutations. He designed primers to make those mutations, does the molecular biology, checks the sequences, then does the biochemical experiment on the enzyme that's being mutated. He's finished about half of the mutants. We are able to get this done because the experiments were planned out to be paralellizable and scaleable, and if something is finishing up when it needs to be picked up at the end of the day (like a transformation recovery), I do it, because he comes in early and I stay in late. I also drop in on the weekends to start cultures- but usually only briefly -, to make the most efficient use of his and my time. He is in usually around 9:00-9:15 and I make sure he leaves at 5:00 and I really get angry if he's around past 5:15 except in exigent conditions.

Bottom line: Even in Biology, you can restrict your working hours if you're a team player if you have good management skills.

If you're overworking. Since science entails failure that you cannot engineer your way out of - you will wind up burning out, since the working hard followed by failure is exactly an optimal way of conditioning laziness.

Re: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Tenure-track-faculty Life

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Not to sound overly critical, but is it just me or does this come off as a somewhat selfish point of view? My father was a tenured professor and growing up I heard enough horror stories from his department to know that a career as a professor at a research university is no easy career. But at the same time, isn't a major part of your job instructing students? I understand the importance of grants, conducting research…

The problem is that no promotion = no job. So if you care about teaching, you need to get tenure.

What about all the non-tenured professors who teach? Are you honestly accusing those who are not chasing tenure of not caring about teaching?

Re: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Tenure-track-faculty Life

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Even if not all of the aspects that she wrote about may related to everybodys problems, it's a very good read because it allows to relate to her situation. Being a post-doc in CS myself and having two kids I exactly know how hard it is to juggle everything. In addition, I think that many of the comments here try to interpret the article as a list of advices and treat them as such. But If you read carefully you would have seen that this is especially something she didn't want to.

My key take-away from this post is that: Yes, the system is designed for young, childless PhDs who are willing to put 80hs/weeks into work and robot-like follow the advice of others. But, it does not have to be like that. It's paramount to remember everyday why you are doing this job and why you love research and teaching.

Re: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Tenure-track-faculty Life

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post #5

The author of this article is a friend and former colleague (I had the office next door to hers at Harvard, when I was on the faculty there). Many of the reasons she cites for being "miserable" as a faculty member reflect why I left a tenured faculty job for industry. Nearly all junior faculty I know describe it as a survival process. Given this I fail to understand why being a professor remains such an attractive ca…

What's scary is that this represents a fairly luxurious set of pain-points relative to the ones I've seen junior faculty members in the biological sciences exposed to at Harvard. The conveniences and cultural differences of the CS community are a stark contrast to academic biology. Considering the author's observations: First, the opt-out options are often fewer and further between; making the jump between basic scie…

You are just sounding like the prototypical PhD / Post Doc that tries to convince everybody that their work is the hardest and if they don't put in the 80h/week humanity will fail.

Every science has it's own merits and problems and we CS people do not only sit on the couch and drink coffee before we hit back on some brogramming and getting the next 10^9$ from Facebook.

Re: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Tenure-track-faculty Life

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Uhh -- the article is mostly about not jumping through hoops to get tenure, and instead considering postdoc a 7-year job and an end to itself.

I'm not suggesting that there isn't merit to what she says, I'm just saying that it came off to me as an article explaining "how I learned to bide my time in this place for 7 years and eschew the typical advice aimed for those who are content to struggle towards tenure." I've spent a lot of time in academia myself. I was a TA in computer science and have taught undergrads so I was exposed to the political battles and…

There is always a maximum amount of hours that anybody can spent on anything. She just draws the line in the sand where she wants it to be so that she has time for other things as well. I admire her for doing it so explicitly.

Re: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Tenure-track-faculty Life

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The author of this article is a friend and former colleague (I had the office next door to hers at Harvard, when I was on the faculty there). Many of the reasons she cites for being "miserable" as a faculty member reflect why I left a tenured faculty job for industry. Nearly all junior faculty I know describe it as a survival process. Given this I fail to understand why being a professor remains such an attractive ca…

I liked Radhika, and I was sad I couldn't take any of her classes.

> Given this I fail to understand why being a professor remains such an attractive career path.

I know a lot of students who made the very concrete decision between immediate grad school, a job followed by grad school, only a job, self-employment, self-teaching, vacation, etc. Guys and girls.

All I learned is everyone's different.

Re: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Tenure-track-faculty Life

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post #11

Not to sound overly critical, but is it just me or does this come off as a somewhat selfish point of view? My father was a tenured professor and growing up I heard enough horror stories from his department to know that a career as a professor at a research university is no easy career. But at the same time, isn't a major part of your job instructing students? I understand the importance of grants, conducting research…

People optimize for the metrics they are set. To the degree teaching is rewarded, they will focus on teaching. I know a number of PhDs with aspirations of tenure. Not one has said they went into it to teach.

I'm a PhD who wants to pursue academia, and I want to do so not to teach, but to be able to continue research.

Teaching is a pleasure - at the moment I supervise undergrads for both research projects and as an advisor, and it is very intellectually rewarding (at least at Cambridge - at my previous institution not so much). I look forward to more of it as an academic, it's just not my primary motivation.

Re: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Tenure-track-faculty Life

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post #5

The author of this article is a friend and former colleague (I had the office next door to hers at Harvard, when I was on the faculty there). Many of the reasons she cites for being "miserable" as a faculty member reflect why I left a tenured faculty job for industry. Nearly all junior faculty I know describe it as a survival process. Given this I fail to understand why being a professor remains such an attractive ca…

What's scary is that this represents a fairly luxurious set of pain-points relative to the ones I've seen junior faculty members in the biological sciences exposed to at Harvard. The conveniences and cultural differences of the CS community are a stark contrast to academic biology. Considering the author's observations: First, the opt-out options are often fewer and further between; making the jump between basic scie…

What you write has a side effect that you get much better high school biology teachers than those who teach other STEM subjects as there are fewer options for them. I can't remember a biology teacher who hadn't done serious research on something.

Re: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Tenure-track-faculty Life

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This strategy would quickly lose its merit outside of Harvard. Failing to gain tenure at Harvard is the expected outcome, so a) the sense of rejection is less, and b) your remaining job prospects are good because this is generally recognized (and it's Harvard). Asking somebody at a high-tenure-rate, second-tier school to treat their tenure track position as an extended post-doc is essentially asking them to have a fa…

This isn't true in computer science at Harvard - I speak from experience, having gone through the tenure process there myself. Being denied tenure in CS at Harvard is about as bad as being denied tenure anywhere else; people don't usually end up in very good jobs afterwards. In my 8 years at Harvard, we awarded tenure to 5 junior faculty, and denied tenure to two.

How does Harvard CS even work in the shadow of MIT and its own very strong liberal arts program? I mean, it is a good department, definitely a top 20.
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