How I Earned A Lot More on Projects by Changing My Pricing Strategy
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#32I'd like to point out that the linked free ebook (pdf) is an excellent short read about pricing strategy: http://breakingthetimebarrier.freshbooks.com/
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#33I reviewed it at my blog -- http://chester.id.au/2012/09/12/review-the-strategy-and-tact...
Essentially, the core insight is as per the blog post. Identify what you are worth to the customer, prove it, then charge based on that. In the book Nagle, Hogan and Zale give examples of quite dramatic price changes where the customer agreed with the reassessment of value. The sellers could prove that a new product would quintuple productivity, so asking for a doubled price was damn near an act of charity, not highway robbery.
Also useful was their treatment of calculating the cash effect of pricing changes. Financial accounting 101 calculations can sometimes be misleading about the best pricing scheme.
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#34I've read these several posts along these lines. The one huge assumption they make is that you have good clients who aren't on a budget and won't go shopping. Those clients are much harder to find as a freelancer.
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#35Re: How I Earned A Lot More on Projects by Changing My Pricing Strategy
#36Yes! Note that you can get halfway to the place McDerment (and Patrick McKenzie) were at simply by not charging by the hour . Simply moving your pricing increment from hours to days or (ideally) weeks changes the conversation you're having with your client. McDerment had to develop serious sales skills to pivot inbound requests for website paint jobs to strategic marketing engagements. But you don't need sales skills…
Why is hour Also, since an hourly rate is standard and job postings say how much they pay by the hour, isn't it common to be rejected when you ask for a daily/weekly rate?
+ The minimum billing increment switching to 8x your 40x your previous increment will, by itself, scare away the worst pathological clients in the pool. (If you have a $50 hourly rate, some clients might naively assume that they can get meaningful software development done in 3 hours. Where's my website? I've paid for three whole hours. What do you mean you're still setting up the dev environment?)
+ If you bill hourly, you have to account for your time in fractions of an hour. This will lead to more overhead (spend 17 minutes on a phone call? Record that fact somewhere! Maybe dicker over whether it's really .25 hours or .5 hours and whether this totally inconsequential $12 difference matters to the client.), more stress from your client reviewing your work on a minute-to-minute basis, and more friction about clients misunderstanding the nature of knowledge work. I can't just slam keys for 8 hours straight, and you wouldn't want me to do that if I could.
+ [I'll add something here in a moment but Ruriko wants breakfast.]
Good clients don't care about you charging daily/weekly. I never lost a client over it. I'm the professional, my standard practice for doing my thing is the standard way for working with me. If you can't deal with that, that's fine, there are other people out there. (Relatedly, I never, not even once, got a contract from a "job posting.")
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#37Smart customers have their own method of pricing to compete with the value-based pricing suggested in the post. It's called market-based pricing. Even if my programming work will make the client $100,000, if the client is convinced he can get that programming work done for $5,000, he will pick that over my $20,000 quote. I've read these several posts along these lines. The one huge assumption they make is that you ha…
Agree. And it's not even so much budget as "not a schmuck" (sorry not a better way to put that).
When I saw this, I laughed:
"As an example, if I was proposing to build a website capable of creating an additional $100,000 of profit annually, I would ask the client to make an investment of $40,000 in their website."
So we are taking a totally speculative number of profit ($100,000) and charging $40,000 to get there. You would have to either be working for a large corporation (using OPM) and have no clue to buy into a proposal phrased like that or be new in business and totally naive. The entire presentation to me smacks of naiveness.
But here's the good part. I can totally see how things like this could and do work. That said you will have to find the type of customers who will fall for something like this.
Most business people who have been around can smell a sales presentation a mile away and to many of them (me in particular) it's an instant turn off because it reaks of "you are going to be paying a lot for this that's why we won't tell you upfront the cost. Because we are going to do some smoke and mirrors to make you go for it."
Lastly, one of the reasons in favor of discussing pricing in advance of a presentation is also to qualify people. I've seen to many salesman stupidly come in and not qualify people in advance simply not realizing that the local small restaurant simply isn't going to part with $10,000 no matter what you promise or tell them (or will have contract signers remorse and back out.)
Re: How I Earned A Lot More on Projects by Changing My Pricing Strategy
#38I'd like to point out that the linked free ebook (pdf) is an excellent short read about pricing strategy: http://breakingthetimebarrier.freshbooks.com/
I have to respectfully disagree. While I think the ideas have merit, the book reads like "the secret" or some other motivational junk. It feels simplified or dumbed-down to the point where it doesn't feel authentic anymore. He got the wrong person to write his story, IMHO.
It's essentially an advertisement for freshbooks and agree with the "motivational" aspects complete with the obligatory testimonials (which I'm sure will or have been reciprocated). The story telling to me is annoying like a childrens book.
The "I'll show you how" uses this single example to make the point of why the information is valuable:
"I completely revamped how I ran my design firm to the point where I worked 19 days in one year and generated over $200,000 to fund my side project."
So we have n=1 here and no further data to back up the initial claim (could be elsewhere so if it is someone please correct me) of how all of this works.
I wouldn't base writing a book on making 1 or 2 smart moves that worked to generate $200,000 (I've done that by the way and over the course of many years so at least I could back the claim up with n= a much larger number btw.)
This is not to say these ideas don't work (some of the ideas do have merit) but we don't exactly a long history here of these tactics working from the author since it seems that after making that money he switched into starting freshbooks.
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#39That's truly impressive to work 19 days and made over $200,000. I wonder what's the story.
Re: How I Earned A Lot More on Projects by Changing My Pricing Strategy
#40Smart customers have their own method of pricing to compete with the value-based pricing suggested in the post. It's called market-based pricing. Even if my programming work will make the client $100,000, if the client is convinced he can get that programming work done for $5,000, he will pick that over my $20,000 quote. I've read these several posts along these lines. The one huge assumption they make is that you ha…
"The one huge assumption they make is that you have good clients who aren't on a budget and won't go shopping. Those clients are much harder to find as a freelancer." Agree. And it's not even so much budget as "not a schmuck" (sorry not a better way to put that). When I saw this, I laughed: "As an example, if I was proposing to build a website capable of creating an additional $100,000 of profit annually, I would ask…