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GameBoy Advance emulator for iOS, no jailbreak required

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Re: GameBoy Advance emulator for iOS, no jailbreak required

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Post by pbsdp »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #30
jeiting wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, this is blatant abuse of the enterprise certificate program. This kind of activity sucks for those of us that use the enterprise signing cert for legitimate purposes.

This is definitely an abuse of the program, but it hurts to see you use the word 'legitimate' to mean 'apple-sanctioned'. They're not tricking anyone, just letting people install custom apps without paying apple a huge* developer fee. *$100 is more or less acceptable, $100 per year for revocable permission to compile is awful

To be granted an enterprise or standard developer signing certificate, you must agree to a contract that stipulates the valid uses of that certificate.

I think it's reasonable to call blatant disregard for contractual obligations "illegitimate".

Re: GameBoy Advance emulator for iOS, no jailbreak required

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Post by glhaynes »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #30
jeiting wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, this is blatant abuse of the enterprise certificate program. This kind of activity sucks for those of us that use the enterprise signing cert for legitimate purposes.

This is definitely an abuse of the program, but it hurts to see you use the word 'legitimate' to mean 'apple-sanctioned'. They're not tricking anyone, just letting people install custom apps without paying apple a huge* developer fee. *$100 is more or less acceptable, $100 per year for revocable permission to compile is awful

Check what "legitimate" means.

Re: GameBoy Advance emulator for iOS, no jailbreak required

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Post by sorghum »

blairbeckwith wrote: post #12
idunno246 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're using MacBuildServer, which provisions it with its own enterprise account, which is against ToS and I would expect macbuildserver's public provisioning to get shut down and the profile revoked

Are there any other examples of apps that would normally be forbidden in the App Store that can be installed in this way?

Yeah, Apple also bans tethering/proxy apps as well as anything related to P2P.

Re: GameBoy Advance emulator for iOS, no jailbreak required

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Post by glhaynes »

frozenport wrote: post #26
mikeweiss wrote: post #9

Its always amazed me that Nintendo hasn't cashed in yet on creating an official emulator for iPhone/Andriod and releasing thier huge collection of old games in an official marketplace for people to download.... there is no doubt how popular that would be. Everyone would be playing pokemon again.

I also have trouble understanding this, perhaps they fear market cannibalism? For example old Pokemon taking money from new Pokemon?

Most likely they're afraid of old Pokemon keeping people from buying new Pokemon on a new 3DS, a new 3DS that would have led to other 3DS game sales.

Re: GameBoy Advance emulator for iOS, no jailbreak required

#36

Post by mikeash »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #30
jeiting wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, this is blatant abuse of the enterprise certificate program. This kind of activity sucks for those of us that use the enterprise signing cert for legitimate purposes.

This is definitely an abuse of the program, but it hurts to see you use the word 'legitimate' to mean 'apple-sanctioned'. They're not tricking anyone, just letting people install custom apps without paying apple a huge* developer fee. *$100 is more or less acceptable, $100 per year for revocable permission to compile is awful

"They're not tricking anyone"

Don't forget Apple. They told Apple that they would not use this key in certain ways, even though they do.

I don't see the problem with calling this "illegitimate". Jailbreaking so you can sideload apps is legitimate. Somehow cracking Apple's verification so you can sign apps without their involvement would be legitimate. But signing up for an enterprise account and then using the keys they give you as part of that in ways they tell you not to is, I think, legitimately illegitimate (ahem).

Re: GameBoy Advance emulator for iOS, no jailbreak required

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Post by Dylan16807 »

glhaynes wrote: post #32
Dylan16807 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is definitely an abuse of the program, but it hurts to see you use the word 'legitimate' to mean 'apple-sanctioned'. They're not tricking anyone, just letting people install custom apps without paying apple a huge* developer fee. *$100 is more or less acceptable, $100 per year for revocable permission to compile is awful

Check what "legitimate" means.

First definition is obeying laws/rules, that fits.

Second definition is "Being in accordance with established or accepted patterns and standards", and that's where it hurts me to read the characterization. They are doing something acceptable and that is very standard in the realm of computing, and seeing it discouraged sucks.

Re: GameBoy Advance emulator for iOS, no jailbreak required

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Post by Dylan16807 »

mikeash wrote: post #36
Dylan16807 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is definitely an abuse of the program, but it hurts to see you use the word 'legitimate' to mean 'apple-sanctioned'. They're not tricking anyone, just letting people install custom apps without paying apple a huge* developer fee. *$100 is more or less acceptable, $100 per year for revocable permission to compile is awful

"They're not tricking anyone" Don't forget Apple. They told Apple that they would not use this key in certain ways, even though they do. I don't see the problem with calling this "illegitimate". Jailbreaking so you can sideload apps is legitimate. Somehow cracking Apple's verification so you can sign apps without their involvement would be legitimate. But signing up for an enterprise account and then using the keys t…

Okay, I guess I should have expected that to be taken literally. Sorry. I meant that they are tricking, to 1% margin of error, nobody. The core of their business is legitimate. They're not scammers.

Re: GameBoy Advance emulator for iOS, no jailbreak required

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Post by mikeash »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #38
mikeash wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"They're not tricking anyone" Don't forget Apple. They told Apple that they would not use this key in certain ways, even though they do. I don't see the problem with calling this "illegitimate". Jailbreaking so you can sideload apps is legitimate. Somehow cracking Apple's verification so you can sign apps without their involvement would be legitimate. But signing up for an enterprise account and then using the keys t…

Okay, I guess I should have expected that to be taken literally. Sorry. I meant that they are tricking, to 1% margin of error, nobody. The core of their business is legitimate. They're not scammers.

Or we can put a different spin on it, and say that they are "only" tricking their major contractual business partner, the one entity without which they would have no business to begin with.

Re: GameBoy Advance emulator for iOS, no jailbreak required

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Post by 0x0 »

millerm wrote: post #19

I'd never seen MacBuildServer.com until just now but they completely violate the terms of service with Apple. They are using their enterprise development certificate to bypass the AppStore. They won't be around long.

I wonder how they deal with the possibility that a github xcode project build file can run arbitrary code... What if someone submits a project to build that spawns a reverse shell and then trojanizes the build server for later builds? I wouldn't trust any ipa coming out of that machine.
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