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Capture the flag 2013

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Re: Capture the flag 2013

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post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "...this type of activity definitely will break terms of service for internet service and hosting providers, as well as potentially several laws." How so? Is the activity itself inherently against TOS or laws? It seems to me that by running the competition, ctf365 intends to have users purposefully exploit sandboxed systems.

How do you define a 'sandboxed' system? What if I choose to run the Wordpress/Django/Drupal/Whatever-CMS on a shared host? Cracking tools don't often take into account the negative effects on non-target hosts, nor are they generally tolerated by shell providers. For example, see 'Prohibited Usage' for Linode: https://www.linode.com/tos.cfm Unless you're paying for raw bandwidth, you're subject to the ToS of each reso…

Hmm. I think my confusion comes from the assumption that each "fortress" (server) is a virtual server hosted by ctf365.

From their rules:

Don't try to conduct underground activities with your Fortress (system) from our platform in the Real World (e.g. using our platform to spam others, attack other servers on the internet and so on). We don't care who you are, but we do care what you are doing in our home (CTF365 Platform). Please remember that you are our guest and please behave accordingly.

I read this to imply that they will provide the "fortress". So when I say "sandboxed" system, I mean a system provided by ctf365 on their own infrastructure - infrastructure which permission is implicitly granted to attack.

Re: Capture the flag 2013

#32
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> "...this type of activity definitely will break terms of service for internet service and hosting providers, as well as potentially several laws." How so? Is the activity itself inherently against TOS or laws? It seems to me that by running the competition, ctf365 intends to have users purposefully exploit sandboxed systems.

I would imagine one example could be a website hosted by a third party. Possibly you would have to inform the host of the situation and get their approval. Otherwise you might be breaking a generic law about gaining unauthorized access to a computer.

See my reply to mjolk. I am under the impression that the "fortress" infrastructure is provided by ctf365.

Re: Capture the flag 2013

#33
post #18

wish I knew anything about hacking to play this, just know development :( setting up the server would be some work to me already

Hopefully they'll at least link to good configuration sites for each service, to give new players at least a fighting chance. I wonder how long it would take someone to spin up a script to install all of these services... SMTP, POP, IMAP, FTP, etc., one CMS + specific plugins, 2 different internet browsers, 3 web applications & at least 2 different databases So...a mail server, file servers, multi-webhost, databases,…

Who installs a first browser on a server?

Re: Capture the flag 2013

#34
post #7

The apparent trouble with signup notwithstanding, this seems like great fun. The thing is, I didn't find out about those problems, because I didn't even try to sign up. I have no idea how I would go about getting started being able to do this. Can anybody suggest resources for lowly web developers to make our way into security? Even if just for fun?

Also: http://www.amazon.com/The-Web-Application-Hackers-Handbook/d...

Re: Capture the flag 2013

#35
post #18

wish I knew anything about hacking to play this, just know development :( setting up the server would be some work to me already

Hopefully they'll at least link to good configuration sites for each service, to give new players at least a fighting chance. I wonder how long it would take someone to spin up a script to install all of these services... SMTP, POP, IMAP, FTP, etc., one CMS + specific plugins, 2 different internet browsers, 3 web applications & at least 2 different databases So...a mail server, file servers, multi-webhost, databases,…

Of course, this introduces a meta-game where script writers can include their own malicious code. :)

Re: Capture the flag 2013

#36
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would imagine one example could be a website hosted by a third party. Possibly you would have to inform the host of the situation and get their approval. Otherwise you might be breaking a generic law about gaining unauthorized access to a computer.

See my reply to mjolk. I am under the impression that the "fortress" infrastructure is provided by ctf365.

Ah, I suppose that would cover most bases. If they own the servers and they are giving permission to access them in such a way then there's likely no worries over unauthorized access type laws.

Re: Capture the flag 2013

#37
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hopefully they'll at least link to good configuration sites for each service, to give new players at least a fighting chance. I wonder how long it would take someone to spin up a script to install all of these services... SMTP, POP, IMAP, FTP, etc., one CMS + specific plugins, 2 different internet browsers, 3 web applications & at least 2 different databases So...a mail server, file servers, multi-webhost, databases,…

Who installs a first browser on a server?

1. They come preinstalled on some closed-source OSes

2. How else would you connect to a datacenter server's integrated lights out (ILO) webpage from a bastion server within the datacenter and domain, to which you're only allowed an RDP connection?

Re: Capture the flag 2013

#38
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

See my reply to mjolk. I am under the impression that the "fortress" infrastructure is provided by ctf365.

Ah, I suppose that would cover most bases. If they own the servers and they are giving permission to access them in such a way then there's likely no worries over unauthorized access type laws.

I took a look at this a while back (excited to see it's still going), but there is the chance that your ISP might send you a nastygram/suspend service if they notice a lot of activity that looks like port scanning, though that depends on how intrusive/vigilant your ISP is being.

Re: Capture the flag 2013

#39
post #7

The apparent trouble with signup notwithstanding, this seems like great fun. The thing is, I didn't find out about those problems, because I didn't even try to sign up. I have no idea how I would go about getting started being able to do this. Can anybody suggest resources for lowly web developers to make our way into security? Even if just for fun?

I've been reading though Hacking: The Art of Exploitation. So far I'm enjoying it.

Definitely agree. Also highly recommend setting up a Kali or Backtrack box. It's a lot less time consuming than starting your toolkit from scratch.
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