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Re: Google paid AdBlock Plus to get its ads whitelisted

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post #10

Just uncheck the Allow non-intrusive option and this becomes a non-issue. With recent onslaught of attack on Ghostery and Ad-block, I wonder if these two tools are doing exactly what they're supposed to do: help people.

What were the attacks on Ghostery? I seem to have missed them.

Here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5897682

Re: Google paid AdBlock Plus to get its ads whitelisted

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I defined an exception for AdWords when I first installed an ad blocker. I just want to block the annoying ads, but I understand that many sites have to advertise to stay online. I can live with text ads, but not auto-start videos with sound, animated banner ads, pop-ups, etc.

It doesn't help a site if you show text blocks from AdSense since they get paid only when there's a qualified click.

Re: Google paid AdBlock Plus to get its ads whitelisted

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post #13

I think it was immoral and dishonest to sneak in a whitelist feature into AdBlock, which is in direct opposition to the core product value. Imagine a firewall that whitelists certain networks. And background updates add more networks that bought their way into your machine. Not a product I'd be willing to use.

I installed AdBlock Plus because of the addition of the whitelist.

I want to encourage sites providing me with free content to show me adverts that don't annoy me.

And it was announced well enough that I, a non-user, heard of it, so I think 'sneak in' is frankly disingenuous.

Re: Google paid AdBlock Plus to get its ads whitelisted

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post #25

Here is the "non-intrusive" filter https://easylist-downloads.adblockplus.org/exceptionrules.tx... It does seem to have a lot of google.

  It does seem to have a lot of google.
Google's a rather large advertiser, and put a good deal of work into ensuring their ads behave better than most.

Re: Google paid AdBlock Plus to get its ads whitelisted

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Just uncheck the Allow non-intrusive option and this becomes a non-issue. With recent onslaught of attack on Ghostery and Ad-block, I wonder if these two tools are doing exactly what they're supposed to do: help people.

What attack on AdBlock? I've heard of issues with Adblock Plus, but not Adblock.

Re: Google paid AdBlock Plus to get its ads whitelisted

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post #13

I think it was immoral and dishonest to sneak in a whitelist feature into AdBlock, which is in direct opposition to the core product value. Imagine a firewall that whitelists certain networks. And background updates add more networks that bought their way into your machine. Not a product I'd be willing to use.

Sneak? I don't know was for upgrading, as I've been a user on and off, but I can tell you that as of a few days ago it asks you upon installing if you want to turn this option on. It does so in clear language, and on a page that is not full of confusing options.

Re: Google paid AdBlock Plus to get its ads whitelisted

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I understand the apprehension in this community about ads in general but when it comes to search engine ads, it does add value (and relevance improvement) to many "commerce" oriented queries.

Google also already knows categories that generally don't get high ad engagement and doesn't show them for those. An example would be "chuck norris biography" - the intent is clear that you're looking for information primarily and even though I'm sure Amazon or others buy tons of ads against "chuck norris movies", etc. Google is smart enough to know not show you those irrelevant ads.

Re: Google paid AdBlock Plus to get its ads whitelisted

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, what others find offensive, you find funny and what you find offensive, other people don't even notice. It's a pretty subjective thing no?

I'm pretty sure it would require an extreme amount of subjectivity to find random noise blaring out of your speakers or drive-by trojan installs acceptable. But sure.

I think you missed his point. He was referring to the fact that you don't mind the ABP policy, while you may find some images offending.

Re: Google paid AdBlock Plus to get its ads whitelisted

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What were the attacks on Ghostery? I seem to have missed them.

That they were/are being paid for sending analytics to ad companies. I actually don't mind, but it should be in red blinking 20 point script on the page where you download it. I can't find the news.ycombinator threads, though.

It is opt in. However they named it pretty inconspicuously ...
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