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FBI Document: [DELETED] had "plan to kill local Occupy leaders via sniper fire"

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Re: FBI Document: [DELETED] had "plan to kill local Occupy leaders via sniper fire"

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It's hard to know what to make of this as without the [DELETED] portions, as there's no evidence of government agencies being involved. I'm not sure why Occupy were not informed of such a plot though? Perhaps the FBI didn't think it was credible?

The part that worries me even more than the death threats was the classification of the Occupy movement as 'terrorist activity'. This opens them up to a whole catalogue of surveillance methods and methods of detention, and is a good illustration of terrorism powers being extended and misused for domestic dissent.

This misuse of the label 'terrorist' highlights the danger of employing extra-legal means to attack your enemies in other countries, it undermines the rule of law everywhere, and weakens the accountability of all law enforcement agencies. Assassination, torture, rendition, and detention without trial are all normalised now in the US for terrorists. The definition of an enemy for the state always includes some of its citizens, so you end up with scope creep where formerly completely illegal and unthinkable acts are considered normal, just because the word terrorism has been used in conjunction with a person or organisation.

Re: FBI Document: [DELETED] had "plan to kill local Occupy leaders via sniper fire"

#32
post #12

I've done some research before upvoting this. I thought whowhatwhy.com would be some kind of conspiracy site, but they just do investigative journalism. They are usually featured in Salon.com. http://www.salon.com/topic/whowhatwhy/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russ_Baker Also, it's known that the FBI coordinated the crackdown on Occupy: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/dec/29/fbi-coor...

Well that definitely justifies upvoting a speculative conspiracy theory to the front page of Hacker News. Given that the US is literally Nazi Germany, it's 100% believable that the FBI would murder protesters. I wish the sheeple could see the US for what it really is: literally Nazi Germany. People like us here on HN and reddit understand what's really going on, unlike the sheeple.

The documents don't say that the FBI was planning this. They say a third party was. The FBI redacted who that third party was. I'm wondering why there haven't beeny any arrests yet.

Re: FBI Document: [DELETED] had "plan to kill local Occupy leaders via sniper fire"

#33
post #12

I've done some research before upvoting this. I thought whowhatwhy.com would be some kind of conspiracy site, but they just do investigative journalism. They are usually featured in Salon.com. http://www.salon.com/topic/whowhatwhy/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russ_Baker Also, it's known that the FBI coordinated the crackdown on Occupy: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/dec/29/fbi-coor...

But how can this be true?! tptacek just told us [1]: > nobody is going to shoot you and your friends in the head for marching around and > They won't even point firehoses at you, or sic dogs on you. You are freer than Americans have been at virtually any other point in our country's history [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5987208

I didn't see a listing of Occupiers shot in the head. Could you link me to that, please?

Re: FBI Document: [DELETED] had "plan to kill local Occupy leaders via sniper fire"

#34
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well that definitely justifies upvoting a speculative conspiracy theory to the front page of Hacker News. Given that the US is literally Nazi Germany, it's 100% believable that the FBI would murder protesters. I wish the sheeple could see the US for what it really is: literally Nazi Germany. People like us here on HN and reddit understand what's really going on, unlike the sheeple.

The documents don't say that the FBI was planning this. They say a third party was. The FBI redacted who that third party was. I'm wondering why there haven't beeny any arrests yet.

It doesn't say it's a third party. We just don't know.

Re: FBI Document: [DELETED] had "plan to kill local Occupy leaders via sniper fire"

#35
post #12

I've done some research before upvoting this. I thought whowhatwhy.com would be some kind of conspiracy site, but they just do investigative journalism. They are usually featured in Salon.com. http://www.salon.com/topic/whowhatwhy/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russ_Baker Also, it's known that the FBI coordinated the crackdown on Occupy: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/dec/29/fbi-coor...

But how can this be true?! tptacek just told us [1]: > nobody is going to shoot you and your friends in the head for marching around and > They won't even point firehoses at you, or sic dogs on you. You are freer than Americans have been at virtually any other point in our country's history [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5987208

Well everyone that's not a sheeple knows that tptacek is a shill for the government.

Given that tptacek is a shill for the US government and the US is literally Nazi Germany, it's safe to ignore tptacek.

Please continue to make valuable contributions to this community, brymaster.

Re: FBI Document: [DELETED] had "plan to kill local Occupy leaders via sniper fire"

#36
post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well that definitely justifies upvoting a speculative conspiracy theory to the front page of Hacker News. Given that the US is literally Nazi Germany, it's 100% believable that the FBI would murder protesters. I wish the sheeple could see the US for what it really is: literally Nazi Germany. People like us here on HN and reddit understand what's really going on, unlike the sheeple.

The documents don't say that the FBI was planning this. They say a third party was. The FBI redacted who that third party was. I'm wondering why there haven't beeny any arrests yet.

> I'm wondering why there haven't beeny any arrests yet.

Because making such a plan is protected by the First Amendment. Carrying it out is not.

Re: FBI Document: [DELETED] had "plan to kill local Occupy leaders via sniper fire"

#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But how can this be true?! tptacek just told us [1]: > nobody is going to shoot you and your friends in the head for marching around and > They won't even point firehoses at you, or sic dogs on you. You are freer than Americans have been at virtually any other point in our country's history [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5987208

I didn't see a listing of Occupiers shot in the head. Could you link me to that, please?

Occupy Oakland, as memory serves. A vet no less.

Re: FBI Document: [DELETED] had "plan to kill local Occupy leaders via sniper fire"

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But how can this be true?! tptacek just told us [1]: > nobody is going to shoot you and your friends in the head for marching around and > They won't even point firehoses at you, or sic dogs on you. You are freer than Americans have been at virtually any other point in our country's history [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5987208

Well everyone that's not a sheeple knows that tptacek is a shill for the government. Given that tptacek is a shill for the US government and the US is literally Nazi Germany, it's safe to ignore tptacek. Please continue to make valuable contributions to this community, brymaster.

> created: 23 minutes ago

Yeah, nice try tptacek. Continue the psyops

:)

Re: FBI Document: [DELETED] had "plan to kill local Occupy leaders via sniper fire"

#39
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not news because it cannot really be blamed on Obama or "the liberals".

Now, now, let's be constructive. Party politics is how they keep the people too divided to change things.

> the people

the sheeple

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