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What is Happening in Brazil

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Re: What is Happening in Brazil

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Just my 2 cents, but saying "paying one of the biggest taxes in the world" is really exaggerated

Income tax might not be so high, but taxes for products are very high. Electricity: about 45%, gasoline: about 50%. Import tax/PIS/Confins/ICMS are calculated one after the other, so you pay tax over tax.

Re: What is Happening in Brazil

#32
post #25

I'm brazilian and this article is a lie. nobody has heard about anybody saying this, and the visions the author of the article atributes to all the manifesters are just his visions. also, the author is an idiot.

The videos are lying too? Those bastards...

Re: What is Happening in Brazil

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Stop this nonsense. Don't give voice to those people. Just the 1st paragraph shows he has no clue of what's happening.

Nobody protested because of 20cents. Those were yearly protests by movement free pass (passe livre). Their goal is free public transportation and they do demonstrations for at least 10yrs.

It's just for effect that they time the demonstrations to the fare raises.

And now, the media giving voice to that kind of people is what made the govt get away with 20c less on the fare for this issue. It totally undermined the movement and alienated newcomers.

Those people eager to appear in the media effectively destroyed the leadership and turned the protest into a headless occupy wallstreet kind of thing.

Yesterday there were talks of the military taking opportunity and throwing A COUPE... Highly improbable but since now nobody has any direction, even within the gov, it was a real fear for some in the workers party that heads govmnt currently.

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post #14

Politicians tend to become worse and worse thinking and seeing from experience that they can "get away with it". But in reality all this time, the population gets more and more frustrated, and it's only a matter of time before the population revolts. So far the Brazilian politicians have been lucky that all these 1 million people haven't become violent and ask for their blood. Because to be honest, I think at least s…

But the any constitution may have(read, HAS) things that are wrong. Constitutions were written by people too. People are fallible, and the possibility exists that going against what they wrote ten-score years ago is just plain wrong, and going against it is the correct thing to do. I don't think leaders should fear correcting the wrongs in the building blocks of their countries; it should be their utmost responsibili…

There's a pretty measurable difference between trying to fix the constitution and "abusing" it, which generally entails flagrantly ignoring it.

Personally, I don't think the death penalty should be used for anything less than willfully causing the death of of an innocent victim.

Re: What is Happening in Brazil

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post #33

Stop this nonsense. Don't give voice to those people. Just the 1st paragraph shows he has no clue of what's happening. Nobody protested because of 20cents. Those were yearly protests by movement free pass (passe livre). Their goal is free public transportation and they do demonstrations for at least 10yrs. It's just for effect that they time the demonstrations to the fare raises. And now, the media giving voice to th…

So if it didn't start because of public transport, why did it, and what is it about?

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post #14

Politicians tend to become worse and worse thinking and seeing from experience that they can "get away with it". But in reality all this time, the population gets more and more frustrated, and it's only a matter of time before the population revolts. So far the Brazilian politicians have been lucky that all these 1 million people haven't become violent and ask for their blood. Because to be honest, I think at least s…

As a fellow brazilian, I totally agree with you. I believe we should not allow party flags to be raised right now. The truth is that politicians from all parties (supportive or not to the present government) were involved in some sort of corruption across Brazil. As violent and absurd this may sound, I believe those who live in Brasília should go to undoubtedly corrupt politician's homes (like Renan Calheiros') and d…

You are so wrong. This only show how you must improve your knowledge of Brazilian politics.

Not all parties were involved in some sort of corruption. And those who didn't are the ones having their flags burnt by protesters.

Lot's of activists from PSTU died protesting against big farmers violence against the indigenous. Activists from PSOL, PSTU, and other left wing parties have a LONG history of protesting. Just search google: Pinheirinhos, Belo Monte, União Homoafetiva, Marcha das Vadias, Marcha da Maconha. They were always there, fighting for what they believed was right.

Re: What is Happening in Brazil

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post #21

This article left me thinking about how big of a mess the 2014 world cup could be - a whirlwind of political protest, drunken fans and violence. Brazilian leadership really has their work cut out of them. However, in China, where oppression and corruption also exist, the 2008 Olympics was an event of unifying nationalism. Then, as the article portrays, Arab countries can oust their leaders, but Brazilians choose to r…

Simply electing leaders isn't enough in systems with winner-take-all dynamics. Brazil, Turkey, and Egypt all encapsulate this basic truth.

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2013/06/21/the_tyranny...

Re: What is Happening in Brazil

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Quote from prosecutor's FB according to this blog post: “I’m trying to get home for the past two hours, but I can’t because there’s some protesters blocking off traffic […] please, somebody tell the police that this area is under the jurisdiction of my court and, if any of them kill a protester, I’ll just archive the case”. Scary!

Yep. I understand this as a humorous remark, no doubt, but there are certain positions of power from which I do not appreciate joking.

How is it possible for that to be taken as a humorous remark?

Re: What is Happening in Brazil

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post #14

Politicians tend to become worse and worse thinking and seeing from experience that they can "get away with it". But in reality all this time, the population gets more and more frustrated, and it's only a matter of time before the population revolts. So far the Brazilian politicians have been lucky that all these 1 million people haven't become violent and ask for their blood. Because to be honest, I think at least s…

As a fellow brazilian, I totally agree with you. I believe we should not allow party flags to be raised right now. The truth is that politicians from all parties (supportive or not to the present government) were involved in some sort of corruption across Brazil. As violent and absurd this may sound, I believe those who live in Brasília should go to undoubtedly corrupt politician's homes (like Renan Calheiros') and d…

I agree with gverri. Sorry, but your comment is very naive, nd not informed. These people with political flags were the people attacked by the police earlier, the people who started everything and now they are being attacked by the new protesters with poor political understanding.

Your notion of "party" is even inaccurate. A party don't need to participate in elections (there are lots of not electoral parties). And between parties who act in elections, there are those who do it not to be elected (in fact, they are almost never elected), but to spread their message in the TV during elections. Just trying to use the system against the system. Even there are parties (PT, PSOL), that are in fact a huge aggregation of different groups (like sub-parties), and those groups can be very diverse, some of them not wishing to concentrate in government, but acting with social movements.

The current acts against political parties in Brazil is a huge ignorance spread by right wing groups. Is indeed a very fascist thing.

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