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Snowden banned from flying to UK

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Re: Snowden banned from flying to UK

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Post by Jenk »

theklub wrote: post #11
kryten wrote: post #4

He'll be fine if he can get to the Ecuadorian Embassy quick enough :) I live in the UK and am utterly disgusted at the pieces of shit that act in our name. You can't vote them out as it's a bipartisan system with two sets of the same ideals. You can't revolt because everyone is too busy staring at Simon Cowel's nefarious trash pumped through our telescreens. You can't speak up because it's illegal. Sit, obey, conform…

I came up with a crazy idea this morning for an internet based political party that allows its members to vote on all ideas and actions the party will take. I think now is the time for something like this. We need to make it happen.

Be careful on what you wish for.

"The strongest argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter." Winston Churchill.

Re: Snowden banned from flying to UK

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Post by jamespo »

DanBC wrote: post #17

Why on earth would he want to come to the UK? It's [edit] certainly not the place to be if you want privacy. RIPA (regulation of investigatory powers act) has been abused by local council staff spying on public to see if they live within a school catchment area or within an area qualifying for cheap parking. There are other abuses too. We're bringing in a "snooper's charter" - this is just traffic data and not conten…

You forgot to mention there are a high proportion of whiners in the UK.

Re: Snowden banned from flying to UK

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Post by [deleted] »

jpatokal wrote: post #16
theklub wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I came up with a crazy idea this morning for an internet based political party that allows its members to vote on all ideas and actions the party will take. I think now is the time for something like this. We need to make it happen.

The Pirate Party has been there and is doing that: http://liquidfeedback.org/mission/

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Re: Snowden banned from flying to UK

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Post by potatolicious »

epo wrote: post #25
DanBC wrote: post #17

Why on earth would he want to come to the UK? It's [edit] certainly not the place to be if you want privacy. RIPA (regulation of investigatory powers act) has been abused by local council staff spying on public to see if they live within a school catchment area or within an area qualifying for cheap parking. There are other abuses too. We're bringing in a "snooper's charter" - this is just traffic data and not conten…

It's not even remotely a horrible place to live. On the strength of that idiocy I feel confident that you have never been anywhere else and that you have no opinons worth taking seriously. How old are you? 13?

He called (presumably) your country a bad place to live.

Your response is a drastic overreaction and is nothing more than an ad hominem attack on another user. Nothing in his post suggests he's never been elsewhere or that he's particularly immature.

Does your post seem like a reasonable response to anything?

Re: Snowden banned from flying to UK

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Post by potatolicious »

aptwebapps wrote: post #15
kryten wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the moment, yes. His only other options are: 1. Get from the building to a diplomatically immune car and out of the EU. Not going to happen: the fuzz will snag him the moment he steps out of the door. 2. Wait for a politically sympathetic party is voted in and the extradition rules are changed. Not going to happen: people are too stupid to vote for anything other than "the big two" and if they did, they won't chan…

I'd add: 5. He finally gets stir crazy enough to attempt to sneak out and gets collared or just decides to take his chances in Sweden. 6. Ecuador gets sick of him and kicks him out (maybe after a change of leadership). And I think 5 is likelier than 3.

I feel like 6 is likely to happen before anything else. His presence is a net negative for Ecuador, I can't see it being very popular that they have a highly wanted individual hanging around the house all day.

Re: Snowden banned from flying to UK

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Post by kryten »

Jenk wrote: post #31
theklub wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I came up with a crazy idea this morning for an internet based political party that allows its members to vote on all ideas and actions the party will take. I think now is the time for something like this. We need to make it happen.

Be careful on what you wish for. "The strongest argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter." Winston Churchill.

Perhaps we should give people a proportional vote weighted by their intelligence?

Re: Snowden banned from flying to UK

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Post by DanBC »

kryten wrote: post #28
DanBC wrote: post #17

Why on earth would he want to come to the UK? It's [edit] certainly not the place to be if you want privacy. RIPA (regulation of investigatory powers act) has been abused by local council staff spying on public to see if they live within a school catchment area or within an area qualifying for cheap parking. There are other abuses too. We're bringing in a "snooper's charter" - this is just traffic data and not conten…

To be fair, all the 14 CCTV cameras on my street (!) have been sprayed, burned or shot. That's the only crime going on around where I live. People aren't putting up with this shit any more.

I think this graffiti project is quite funny. (http://www.irational.org/heath/cctv_sabotage/)

Re: Snowden banned from flying to UK

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Post by kryten »

DanBC wrote: post #39
kryten wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, all the 14 CCTV cameras on my street (!) have been sprayed, burned or shot. That's the only crime going on around where I live. People aren't putting up with this shit any more.

I think this graffiti project is quite funny. ( http://www.irational.org/heath/cctv_sabotage/ )

That is pretty cool.

The only problem being that you're probably going to get caught doing it.

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