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Out of curiosity, has anyone's opinion of Bradley Manning, Julian Assange or Wikileaks changed over the last few days? From the previous times the topic has come up, my impression is that this community is more or less whether they're doing good work or not.
I didn't know the WaPo story had been authored by someone working with Assange to make a documentary on WikiLeaks. That would at least explain why "data directly from" was misinterpreted to mean "backdoor direct access" since I doubt she had the training to disambiguate the terms used. Not that it matters too much anyways, I'm assuming it wasn't an OpEd and therefore she'd still have received the normal editing and s…
There are many reporters working on this, not just Greenwald or Poitras. The most recently released slide directly contradicts the statements by Google and Facebook: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/08/nsa-prism-server... Given that they used the same phrases in their denials, it would seem they have been fed talking points, and are are using a novel interpretation of direct access. For example if Google or F…
From this slide it appears the distinction between the two types of data collection are between "indirect" on-the-wire intercepts and "direct" where the data's obtained from the company holding it. Given the context it could be referring to FISA obtained documents.
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We're in the midst of several legal cases that are trying to argue that the NSA spying program is criminal conduct.
Well that the flip side of "innocent until proven guilty" is that merely having an open case is not enough.
So basically the fact the NSA leaker was going to be prosecuted was leaked, how can the the security officials who leaked this piece of information not see the irony ?
If the government hasn't done anything wrong, then they shouldn't have anything to hide from us :) More seriously, some amount of surveillance is probably necessary, but they need to be a lot more open and transparent about it. Secret laws and secret courts are not the stuff a free society is made of.
Apparently, they do. FISA spying has been found unconstitutional since 2011, but they are keeping it a secret: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/06/government-says-secret... This is happening in the "beacon of democracy" of the world.
Everyone should be keeping their eye on @ggreenwald's twitter, reveals much about the debate and what's going on with him. He gives bits and pieces of background info..
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Well that the flip side of "innocent until proven guilty" is that merely having an open case is not enough.
How can we prove something guilty when we don't even know it exists?
We just didn't know we cared.
Out of curiosity, has anyone's opinion of Bradley Manning, Julian Assange or Wikileaks changed over the last few days? From the previous times the topic has come up, my impression is that this community is more or less whether they're doing good work or not.