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It would have to have fairly long trial period however...
Or it should come with a free three-month personal course
I read that as "Or it should come with a free three-month personal curse". Which it already does ..
Vim hall of honour
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Re: Vim hall of honour
#32Let's say VIM didn't exist right now. Could you imagine selling it for 100 euro?
Right after the tightly thought out keybindings, I think the greatest value offering in vim is the documentation. It's extremely comprehensive, and being fairly conversant in Vimscript I know I could develop plugins without internet at all, looking up the API with :help (I've only recently acquired the habit and it feels great.) So if vim came out with such a mature, thorough documentation, it would not only be well worth the 100 euro, but I think it would have little problem finding at least a cult following out of thin air. Writing those docs are arguably as hard as writing vim itself, perhaps harder because it isn't as challenging and requires pure dilligence and thoroughness. It's like writing a full book to ship along with the software.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
So you're saying that this person was implying that even though the price is 0 euro, the consumer surplus is greater than 100 euro? I can understand this reasoning, so thanks for explaining it. I'm not sure I believe that consumer surplus can be measured outside of controlled psychology experiments, since it's only speculation and talk is cheap. I guess I always thought that the value (or worth - these are the same,…
First, value is relative. To my grand mother, Vim has no value. Second, it is true that the price in an efficient market tends to approach the value most consumers will get out of the product (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supply_and_demand ). That being said, the value a consumer assigns to a product is always superior to the actual price he is paying, otherwise, why would he bother with the transaction at all? H…
In many parts of world water IS NOT free. Indeed, there are places where people kill each other for fresh water.
Just a tiny nitpick... ;)
Re: Vim hall of honour
#34Do you guys Vim is as good in non-Unix environments?
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id suspect VIM would have a very hard time if it was coming out now and nobody knew about it, even for free. That doesnt mean its not awesome, but VIM is all about its legacy, huge ecosystem and hype.
VIM is all about its legacy, huge ecosystem and hype I don't agree with the "hype" part. Where's the hype? I use vim because it gets the job done.
I've heard the "hype" about vim for years, sometimes from people who clearly (in retrospect) didn't understand what made vim so good. It was not a selling point for me!
I switched to vim about a month ago and am more productive now than I ever was before. I'd fight to keep vim in my toolkit. Modal editing, jump commands, chained actions, macros, tiling, windowing and configurability are just a few of the features I would miss if I had to switch back.
Non-vimmers: Don't get blinded by the hype, vim rocks for practical reasons.
Re: Vim hall of honour
#36It's a nice surprise to see tpope as one of the top donators. What he has contributed to the vim community through his plugins was already worth much more than that IMHO.
Agreed, I was surprised as well. I would imagine that the number of people he has helped entice to the vim world exceed his contributions by quite a bit.
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#37Do you guys Vim is as good in non-Unix environments?
I use gVim on Windows and MacVim on OSX and while I'm no uber power user, I think they do the job very nicely. I've never really missed much on either platform in terms of capability.
The only thing I'd say is that viEmu for Visual Studio is lacking in several areas, but the access to VS's Intellisense makes up for it. And that's of course not an issue with vim as much as viEmu.
Re: Vim hall of honour
#38www.freeonlineapps.com www.freeonlineapps.com is a very generous person.
I genuinely thought this was bot spam.
Re: Vim hall of honour
#39Do you guys Vim is as good in non-Unix environments?
Quite. I have used gvim on Windows from around '99. It works decently and you can even share most of your plugins and configuration across platforms.
Re: Vim hall of honour
#40It's a nice surprise to see tpope as one of the top donators. What he has contributed to the vim community through his plugins was already worth much more than that IMHO.
Agreed, I was surprised as well. I would imagine that the number of people he has helped entice to the vim world exceed his contributions by quite a bit.
Not to mention the names of his scripts are the best