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Re: Microsoft's anti-Google campaign gets a boost, from Google

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Earlier discussions: C&D takedown to Microsoft by Google: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5715168 Microsoft's response(Lying at #40 on second page because of heavy flagging by Google fans in spite of it having more votes than many stories on front page): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5715889

I flag subs like these because the comment threads are fucking awful.

What kind of subs exactly? The ones critical of Google?

How about just skipping the story/comments and moving to the next instead of trying to bury real news for everyone by flagging?

From the HN guidelines:

If you think something is spam or offtopic, flag it by going to its page and clicking on the "flag" link. (Not all users will see this; there is a karma threshold.)

You're basically abusing your mod privieleges.

Re: Microsoft's anti-Google campaign gets a boost, from Google

#32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think he's a Microsoft hater, he works for them[1]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=cooldeal

Okay, let us assume that he does, so what? A lot of people work for Microsoft, Google and Apple and post on HN. I didn't see a sign up message on HN stating that only Google and Apple employees/fans are allowed to post here. Nice job at trying to derail the discussion. Now care tell us what do you think of the topic of this story instead of trying to go ad hominem on a tangent about some HN commenter's posting histor…

> Okay, let us assume that he does, so what? A lot of people work for Microsoft, Google and Apple and post on HN.

Because you seem to have him pegged as a MS hater when if you look at his previous comments of the past 3-4 months they're contrary to your hypothesis of him hating MS.

> Nice job at trying to derail the discussion.

It was already derailed by your witch hunt against this guy. I generally look at a user's history before thinking of calling them out for bias.

> Now care tell us what do you think of the topic of this story...

Considering I have never said anything negative towards Microsoft (or for that matter, Google, Apple, or any major tech company) on HN and I am currently posting this on Windows 7, while using Intellij IDEA, Visual Studio 2012 and with also a couple of remote ssh instances of Linux simultaneously open, I definitely have an overt bias :)

> ...instead of trying to go ad hominem on a tangent about some HN commenter's posting history which has nothing to do with anything really?

I don't think you're in the best position to be accusing anyone of name calling and character attacks based on your very angry and accusing comments so far. It's just a forum and the Internet is a silly place to get angry over :). I've had articles I've submitted get flagged or ignored. Doesn't bother me. I consider it the people that flagged its loss and not mine and just put it out of my mind almost after I submit it.

> Edit: What in cooldeal's HN profile makes you think he works for Microsoft?

Perhaps he doesn't and I read too much into his comments and he's not. However, he's certainly not a Google fanboy and MS hater. If you would like to attack people, there are much better communities on the internet to do so than HN.

Edit: although yes there are people here that have a strong dislike of MS for whatever reason (and also those that dislike Google, Apple, Ruby, PHP, and anything else that can be polarizing), assuming everyone here is in one camp or the other and accusing them of such is not winning you any sympathizers as I use quite few tools at times that are not considered super popular on hn myself (such as Opera, Java, C#, Windows, etc). I also use things that are popular as well (Python, Linux, JavaScript, Android). In then end, I really don't care what anyone uses other than myself as my decisions are related to what works best for me and only that. I stopped worrying about staying trendy sometime ago and I think I'm happier for it.

However, I can't support someone that resorts to mud slinging themselves. I think it's a shame you are trying to fight everyone as well as it just reaffirms the people that flag such articles that they're correct and dissuades those more amiable from supporting such articles in the future. I prefer an HN that is less polarized or focused only on one or two tech platforms.

Re: Microsoft's anti-Google campaign gets a boost, from Google

#34
post #13

So how did Microsoft get Google to promote the Scroogled campaign? The article claims this is what happened but there is no information about it or proof or any sort of logical link, only about MS publishing the C&D letter.

Read the stories in this post for more details. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5717749

None of those stories say anything about scroogled either. My point is this particular article makes a premise and then completely fails to follow up on it. Its really poor writing.

Re: Microsoft's anti-Google campaign gets a boost, from Google

#35

Good job, Google fans for flagging this story off the front page, you really have a veto on the HN front page.

I will comment on this one since you seem to be getting carried away with your personal attacks.

Please, stop it. It's shameful to read.

Re: Microsoft's anti-Google campaign gets a boost, from Google

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay, let us assume that he does, so what? A lot of people work for Microsoft, Google and Apple and post on HN. I didn't see a sign up message on HN stating that only Google and Apple employees/fans are allowed to post here. Nice job at trying to derail the discussion. Now care tell us what do you think of the topic of this story instead of trying to go ad hominem on a tangent about some HN commenter's posting histor…

> Okay, let us assume that he does, so what? A lot of people work for Microsoft, Google and Apple and post on HN. Because you seem to have him pegged as a MS hater when if you look at his previous comments of the past 3-4 months they're contrary to your hypothesis of him hating MS. > Nice job at trying to derail the discussion. It was already derailed by your witch hunt against this guy. I generally look at a user's…

Geez, I was referring to mtgx as a Google fanboy and MS hater, certainly not cooldeal.

Re: Microsoft's anti-Google campaign gets a boost, from Google

#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see, do you have an opinion on the story or are you here just to comment about how other people's personal tastes are out of the mainstream?

Ironically, the subtle implication of THIS comment - that my responses are less valuable because I am, in general, a negative person - IS drifting towards ad hominem.

Too bad you got caught trying to delete your troll post here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5717922

Re: Microsoft's anti-Google campaign gets a boost, from Google

#38

Good job, Google fans for flagging this story off the front page, you really have a veto on the HN front page.

I will comment on this one since you seem to be getting carried away with your personal attacks . Please, stop it. It's shameful to read.

Well, I submitted this story to see what the reaction of HN posters is. Well, almost no one here is commenting on topic because they seem to be squirming and are instead going on complete tangents by commenting about commenters and everyone else and then the submission gets flagged off the front page like every story on this Google C&D and you're accusing me of personal attacks? Really? How about some basic ethics, integrity and consistency from the other posters instead of trying to pretend that Google can do wrong and trying to derail and flag the story?

Re: Microsoft's anti-Google campaign gets a boost, from Google

#39
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Read the stories in this post for more details. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5717749

None of those stories say anything about scroogled either. My point is this particular article makes a premise and then completely fails to follow up on it. Its really poor writing.

Okay let me explain it. Microsoft wanted to point out that Gmail scans the contents of email while Outlook.com doesn't in the Scroogled campaign.

And now Google is trying legal tactics with a C&D to takedown to prevent Windows Phone users from getting a very popular smartphone app, YouTube, so they're smearing themselves here and helping the scroogled compaign paint them as evil.

Re: Microsoft's anti-Google campaign gets a boost, from Google

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Okay, let us assume that he does, so what? A lot of people work for Microsoft, Google and Apple and post on HN. Because you seem to have him pegged as a MS hater when if you look at his previous comments of the past 3-4 months they're contrary to your hypothesis of him hating MS. > Nice job at trying to derail the discussion. It was already derailed by your witch hunt against this guy. I generally look at a user's…

Geez, I was referring to mtgx as a Google fanboy and MS hater, certainly not cooldeal.

Perhaps we got off on the wrong foot? I'll explain how we perhaps got to this point.

In your comment here[1][2] with the quote, your pronoun usage and the reply you gave, one could take it as you were referring to cooldeal, which prompted my reply and beliving you were accusing him and not mtgx. Since you cleared it up, not a big deal, but just showing how it can get misinterpreted.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5717816

[2] > CloudNine 1 hour ago | link

>Also, what if I was him/her? Whats your problem, really. Well, looking at his previous postings he seems quite the dedicated Google fan and Microsoft hater.

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