1. See Mailbox launch on HN and TechCrunch and immediately sell for $100mm. 2. Launch mail app on HN. 3. $$$?
I assure you we're not for sale. There's a lot to be done to replace e-mail and I can't see anyone trying.
You Can't Afford To Stop Using Mail
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Re: You Can't Afford To Stop Using Mail
#32It looks like this is not a general purpose mail client, but rather something specific to your own hosted domain.
If you're looking for a usable IMAP/POP mail client today, try Inky (http://inky.com), which has a lot of these features already and many more on the roadmap. It's available for Mac and Windows right now, with Linux support coming soon (http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/05/inky-pens-linux-support-o...)
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#33Here's a thought to toss out and see if it sticks (or has been done): How about an email app which groups messages by frequency/familiarity of sender? If someone sends me messages often, or has sent stuff on occasion over a very long time, group it at one end of the inbox; if seldom and not known for long, somewhere in the middle; if sender (&/| reply-to) has never been seen before, shove it to the other end. Maybe a…
Inky (http://inky.com) already lets you sort by relevance. It's much more useful than VIP/whitelist/blacklist but we're continuing to play with the relevance metric to further improve it. It does take sender frequency into account.
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#34Here's a thought to toss out and see if it sticks (or has been done): How about an email app which groups messages by frequency/familiarity of sender? If someone sends me messages often, or has sent stuff on occasion over a very long time, group it at one end of the inbox; if seldom and not known for long, somewhere in the middle; if sender (&/| reply-to) has never been seen before, shove it to the other end. Maybe a…
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#35Some thoughts: "We have a strategy how to wipe out spam for good. [...] Phishing is going to be just a story too." Whitelisting pretty much solves this. (Multiple accounts also help; one you give to people directly, and one you use for everything online, helps bump personal communication to the top) "Are your important messages always delivered? We will guarantee a delivery in less than a second." Those are two diffe…
In our experience, whitelisting really doesn't solve the problem. I often get email from people I don't know about things I want to read about ("hey, I'm a VC who wants to give you money!").
Automagically parsing receipts is certainly cool, and several mail vendors are working on it, including us (Inky).
Guaranteed delivery isn't really possible without controlling both sender and recipient's client; nor is immediate delivery.
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#36Interesting:
> Thank you ...@gmail.com
> One more thing. We took a look at your current mail's health:
> Deliverability of your messages (thumbsdown)
> Your server is weakly secured and could be used for sending spam.
Seems like a false positive.
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#37Looking forward to trying it, however requested an invite and the scanner on the Thank You screen mentions my @gmail.com account got a thumbs down for Deliverability and being 'weakly secured'. Kind of a bold statement to make about gmail, no?
I appreciate your interest. :) That check looks for blacklisted IPs of your provider. Gmail is blacklisted very often, thus making deliverability of your messages to some servers lower. Might be a poor wording on our side. We'll take a look at that.
Thanks for the clarity, probably best to explain it on your site just as you did here. Good luck with the rollout/launch.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
I appreciate your interest. :) That check looks for blacklisted IPs of your provider. Gmail is blacklisted very often, thus making deliverability of your messages to some servers lower. Might be a poor wording on our side. We'll take a look at that.
Thanks for the clarity, probably best to explain it on your site just as you did here. Good luck with the rollout/launch.
Thanks! :)
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
It very much depends on your account visibility. I have the email address helpme@gmail and it gets about 20 spams a day into my inbox (and thousands to my spam folder, so I'm not arguing that it's a bad filter). So it's far from solved. However I used to work in anti-spam and so know full well that it's not a solvable problem - no matter what some new startup claims.
I agree, mail has to change at a very basic level to not allow anyone to send spam.
That's impossible. You have two options:
1) Have central control, central management. Facebook has this in their messaging app, and still spend millions of dollars fighting spam on it every year. 2) Have whitelist only email - basically get pre-approval for who can message you. Instant Messaging has this and people still get spammed on it. Plus you lose so much under this model - how many times a year do you email someone you've never emailed before? For me it is in the hundreds.
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#40Some thoughts: "We have a strategy how to wipe out spam for good. [...] Phishing is going to be just a story too." Whitelisting pretty much solves this. (Multiple accounts also help; one you give to people directly, and one you use for everything online, helps bump personal communication to the top) "Are your important messages always delivered? We will guarantee a delivery in less than a second." Those are two diffe…
- We have a plan to replace current infrastructure that will make it impossible for spam even occur.
- True. There needs to be both. How email works today is laughable.
- Parsing receipts or anything that is possible to and will make life easier is something we all want.
We fully understand the difficulty of all this to happen but we will start lean. All this is just the future, not so distant though.