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Wikipedia Adopts MariaDB

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Re: Wikipedia Adopts MariaDB

#31

So bets on how long it will be until MariaDB is scooped by Oracle?

It does not make sense for Oracle to try that. MariaDB demonstrates there is enough support to sustain a DB that is MySQL but without Oracle. They'd have to be dumb not to expect another MariaDB to spring up after the hypothetical takeover.

Not that the takeover is feasible, as the other answers point out.

Re: Wikipedia Adopts MariaDB

#32

So bets on how long it will be until MariaDB is scooped by Oracle?

MariaDB basically exists because of Monty's hatred for Oracle (which bought Sun after Sun bought MySQL for wheelbarrows full of money from Monty). It won't happen.

Monty started MariaDB pretty much as soon as he left Sun, long before the Oracle acquisition, but shortly after he started criticizing the release of mysql 5.1 under Sun, which was widely regarded as botched.

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#34

The big battle MariaDB (or any DB) is going to have is gaining ground in the shared web host space. That makes up a pretty large portion of websites, and there is no incentive for those providers to change. I'd love to see other DB options in that space, its all PHP/MySQL.

That'll probably happen - mainly because the distributions will probably switch over to MariaDB. I'd expect Ubuntu, Debian, CentOS etc to all ship MariaDB as an upgrade at some point.

Unfortunately it would appear Debian is actually lagging a bit behind in this regard:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=565308

Re: Wikipedia Adopts MariaDB

#35

Is MariaDB still substantially slower than MySQL? http://dimitrik.free.fr/blog/archives/2013/02/mysql-performa...

The official blog post makes it sound like overall it was a performance gain with a few edge cases coming out 5% slower.

I wish it talked more about their DB hardware, I would believe MariaDB is more performant for scale out, whereas the MySQL improvement have been targeting scale up (something Oracle is very good at).

Re: Wikipedia Adopts MariaDB

#36

So bets on how long it will be until MariaDB is scooped by Oracle?

I had the benefit of seeing Monty talk at All Your Base conference in Oxford last year, and let me tell you, he made it quite clear that a huge driving force behind MariaDB is to take on Oracle, because he absolutely hates them for what they've done with MySQL. Remember, the original sale of MySQL wasn't to Oracle, it was to Sun, which was then acquired by Oracle. After hearing what he had to say, I have nothing but…

Previous release of MySQL new version was really evolutionary, so I'm sure now that Oracle can improve this DB. And if we will add some facts about InnoDB then all Monty's "hate" will look like populism or try to keep the face.

Re: Wikipedia Adopts MariaDB

#37
The only problem I foresee with MariaDB is they have no interest in porting innodb fulltext search like MySQL 5.6

Sure there are other fulltext solutions but to simply convert myisam to innodb, FTS on innodb with the same queries is rather helpful.

Re: Wikipedia Adopts MariaDB

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"No one ever got fired for buying IBM." As a corollary, no one wants to be the guy that suggested MongoDB before it caused an outage.

I think that only makes sense if you don't know what MariaDB is. It's a fork that attempts to maintain high compatibility, run by the founder of MySQL. What it isn't is a different program entirely, with a different protocol, syntax, scalability, consistency and community.

You missed the point. The idea is management and investor confidence, buy-in.

Here's how it works in most companies: MySQL goes down = something seriously bad happened. MariaDB went down = that database that Ted suggested sure is a piece of shit.

Re: Wikipedia Adopts MariaDB

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that only makes sense if you don't know what MariaDB is. It's a fork that attempts to maintain high compatibility, run by the founder of MySQL. What it isn't is a different program entirely, with a different protocol, syntax, scalability, consistency and community.

You missed the point. The idea is management and investor confidence, buy-in. Here's how it works in most companies: MySQL goes down = something seriously bad happened. MariaDB went down = that database that Ted suggested sure is a piece of shit.

Well that depends on how Ted presented it, doesn't it? If he says "Let's try this other database instead of MySQL" may turn out different than if he says "Let's try this other version of MySQL put out by MariaDB".

In the end it comes down to having data to support your position though. If MariaDB goes down, and you can't answer whether it would have happened the same in MySQL, then maybe you shouldn't be making database suggestions. If it wouldn't have happened to MySQL, well then people were right to be wary, weren't they?

Re: Wikipedia Adopts MariaDB

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This article has many facts wrong. It seems that MySQL development halted entirely at Sun. I was concerned about Oracle's motives w.r.t MySQL but I can say they have come out with major new releases that improve MySQL in substantial ways. For instance, they've greatly improved the scalability of InnoDB on large SMP machines. On the other hand, neither Sun nor Oracle have been really wanting to win with MySQL either a…

Was there ever a doubt that MariaDB wouldn't work in demanding applications? It's pretty much MySQL all the way down.

It doesn't work for my employer's application.

May be the lots and lots of SPs are too much for MariaDB, but no, it is not a 100% replacement drop in.

I have tried.

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