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Korean Beauty Contestants – Face Morphing

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Re: Korean Beauty Contestants – Face Morphing

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It's all in good spirit, but I can't help to note that it wreeks of the old racist trope "all look the same" http://healthland.time.com/2010/11/24/they-all-look-the-same... And perhaps also a bit sexist? I dunno, maybe I'm overly sensitive.

It's not a racial thing. See these translated Korean netizen comments: http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2013/04/foreign-media-outlet... > 1. [+238, -4] They look the same even in our eyes, I can't imagine in the eyes of foreigners... -,.- > 2. [+234, -9] ㅋㅋㅋㅋ I thought all the faces were ctrl + C and ctrl + V with just the shirts changed. They should be ashamed of getting plastic surgery, how could they even think of…

Internet commenters slagging off beauty contestants as identical barbies? News at eleven.

No, it's that people are getting het up about this particular instance that feels a bit... xenophobic at least. Especially because of the apparent credulity that a bunch of press photos was received with.

Re: Korean Beauty Contestants – Face Morphing

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South korea has a far lower genetic diversity then a lot of european countries, and America for sure. In a totally non-racist way, the "all look same" stereotype may have more truth than it does for a lot of other countries.

This is quite easy to test: just take 20 beauty queens from North Korea and see what diversity you get. I believe the genetic diversity in the two countries is about the same, but they have been isolated for around 50+ years, so there is some great science to be had once North Korea opens up (think Iceland).

Re: Korean Beauty Contestants – Face Morphing

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All I see is lots of makeup. Might it more accurately be called a Korean Face Art Contest?

But really, if we're trying to compare physical beauty, wouldn't the contest require 0 modification of it? This would likely include banning makeup, any form of plastic surgery, unnatural hair modifications, and clothing that is overly supportive. Is there even such a thing? A cursory Google search suggests no. Even so called "natural beauty pageants" apparently permit caked on makeup, fake hair, fake teeth (not just orthodontics), etc. I don't see a point to these beauty contests, in that case. They say nothing about the person at all.

Re: Korean Beauty Contestants – Face Morphing

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neat, but eigenfaces is really overplayed and outdated, there's lots of better face recognition algorithms that can handle a bit of distortion/deformation that really plagues principal component methods

Interested to read about the better algorithms if you have some good resources.

Part of the problem with eigenfaces is that they are really sensitive to variations in pose, which, as the author notes, are present in this data set. The article doesn't actually compare the variability among these faces to the variability among a control population of Korean faces, so I don't know to interpret the results anyway, but my guess just by looking at the eigenfaces is that they are capturing pose variation in addition to variation in facial structure.

Check out the results page on the Labeled Faces in the Wild site for some better algorithms that are more robust to changes in pose, along with their performance on a sample data set: http://vis-www.cs.umass.edu/lfw/results.html. Eigenfaces are the worst algorithm tested. Amazon Mechanical Turk is better than all of the algorithms, even if you show only the face itself OR show only the remainder of the photograph that doesn't include the face.

Re: Korean Beauty Contestants – Face Morphing

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post #36

All I see is lots of makeup. Might it more accurately be called a Korean Face Art Contest? But really, if we're trying to compare physical beauty, wouldn't the contest require 0 modification of it? This would likely include banning makeup, any form of plastic surgery, unnatural hair modifications, and clothing that is overly supportive. Is there even such a thing? A cursory Google search suggests no. Even so called "…

Look here:

http://i.imgur.com/7kdgJ32.jpg

Particularly at #18, where it's most obvious. These pictures have been photoshopped to give the ladies the elfin look that's popular right now in Korea.

Re: Korean Beauty Contestants – Face Morphing

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I wonder whether this analysis supports the assertion that these were photoshopped? http://kotaku.com/blame-photoshop-for-koreas-beauty-queen-cl...

I would think there would be even fewer "eigenfaces" if someone had Photoshopped them to look alike.

Re: Korean Beauty Contestants – Face Morphing

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post #38
post #36

All I see is lots of makeup. Might it more accurately be called a Korean Face Art Contest? But really, if we're trying to compare physical beauty, wouldn't the contest require 0 modification of it? This would likely include banning makeup, any form of plastic surgery, unnatural hair modifications, and clothing that is overly supportive. Is there even such a thing? A cursory Google search suggests no. Even so called "…

Look here: http://i.imgur.com/7kdgJ32.jpg Particularly at #18, where it's most obvious. These pictures have been photoshopped to give the ladies the elfin look that's popular right now in Korea.

Some of the real faces have a lot of character - and they were all turned mindless-looking by the photoshopping.
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