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2nd year Comp Sci student that just now figured out I have ADD

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Re: 2nd year Comp Sci student that just now figured out I have ADD

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With one month to go in the last year of my computer science degree I was diagnosed with ADD.

The psychiatrist gave me some stunning advice: Ritalin or medication will not do your work for you. In my last month of university I was enabled with the ability to start working on projects well before the 48-hour cram period that I had come to know.

I had spent most of my schooling as a child to be made out as an idiot. As I result I'm now awfully quick to recognise when someone is not giving me their respect.

ADD is supposed to be picked up through your younger years. However when I grew up, it was the naughty children that had ADD/ADHD... they were the ones that caught their teachers attention.

Someone like me would never be correctly diagnosed, I has happy internalizing whatever it was that I was thinking about.

Re: 2nd year Comp Sci student that just now figured out I have ADD

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It could be food-related. Look into an elimination diet ... Also, look into innerchild / regression therapy. There's usually an underlying reason why our behaviours lead to procrastination. Good luck. Edit: Oh, and yoga's good too. You can train the mind to be more focused. Everything takes practice to get good at it ... focus isn't any different - though with computers and multi-tasking, we sometimes think we're "fo…

> Also, look into innerchild / regression therapy. There's usually an underlying reason why our behaviours lead to procrastination. Good luck.

I guess I've sort-of known this, though it's nice to hear someone else confirm it... I know that my procrastination and perfectionism are quite interrelated, as whenever I try and work on a project, my mind manages to find zillions of problems with it, I don't get any real stimulation out it, and I return to distracting habits that give more immediate pleasure (damn you HN!).

Perfectionism, in turn, has its roots in childhood stress (at least it does for me). Not getting enough positive feedback for so many years, not believing in myself, etc. It seems so simple in retrospect, but I didn't realize how much emotional stress I had built up my whole life until maybe a year or so ago. Incidentally, I noticed this when I was reading about the causes of RSI, which turned out to be caused by psychosomatic effects (TMS, again, at least for me). So these stresses, left unresolved, can turn into real physical pain.

The human brain is fucking weird.

Re: 2nd year Comp Sci student that just now figured out I have ADD

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But by doing yoga and other psychological therapy, your neurochemistry may be changed. That is how cognitive behavioural and mindfulness therapies work. I think in the end, your neurochemistry needs to be changed in order for the therapy to have an effect. But using drugs are not the only way to change your neurochemistry. In short, I don't think he is suggesting that the author of the article to use willpower. He si…

As I said, it's good advice. But the waters here are much more murky than that. That approach alone won't work for everyone, that's the only point I wanted to make.

You might be right, but it's possible considering all of the modern distractions and passive entertainment we have that it really is a matter of mental conditioning (or something like that).

Re: 2nd year Comp Sci student that just now figured out I have ADD

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I haven't been medicated for my pretty severe ADD in years (I was very uncomfortable with the personality changes/dampening of creativity/unknown health impact of meds, etc.), thinking I could summon the willpower and discipline to get through it. I've been spiraling downward in a tailspin of "unproductivity" - to coin a state of being - for a while now, leaving a trail of half started startups and projects in my wak…

Stop blaming ADD. Even if it is related to ADD, this situation could not possibly have been caused by ADD alone. You know that at the crux of it, poor planning was to blame. Poor time management followed, and you screwed yourself. If you want to get out of this hole, you've got to get off HN now, (I use noprocrast). After that, do 1 project per night at a time. Yes. You will need to work in the dead of night, all not…

Spoken like someone who hasn't the slightest clue how mental illness and mental disorders work, or what it feels like to suffer from them.

"Just do X"! If only it were so easy, the world would be a much different place.

Re: 2nd year Comp Sci student that just now figured out I have ADD

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I'm in an extremely similar situation to you. Here's my advice: if you're looking to get put on a medication (don't feel bad about feeling like you need it), start getting help now. I'm saying this because getting treatment for ADD is a LONG process. Once you're locked into the medical system, you're good, but it can be a hell of a time getting there.

1) If you're away from home and don't have a primary care doctor, get one. Like, right now. Depending on where you live, wait times for accepting new patients can vary between 1-3 months. They'll typically set up an introductory physical. Once you're there, explain to them that you think you have ADHD and want to discuss treatment options.

From there, the meeting can go one of two ways. The way you want it to go is for the doc/NP to start you on a trial medication.

On the other hand (and this happened to me), you may find that your primary care physician is either 1) entirely against ADHD medications and/or 2) won't prescribe them, instead requiring you to go to a psychiatrist. If this is the case, then you must start the 1-3 month waiting period all over again trying to get in with a psychiatrist. A shortcut here might just be to go directly to the psychiatrist, but depending on your insurance, that may not be possible.

Tips:

Don't bother getting help through your university. They get too many kids coming through there looking for easy Adderall and Vicodin, to the point where they treat everyone like drug addicts. Getting that kind of treatment from others can be really off-putting and make you feel bad about having ADHD. That's the last thing you need.

If you can't get meds through your primary care, make sure you see a psychiatrist, not a psychologist. If you call a mental health center that has a mix of psychiatrists, psychologists, and counsellors, make sure you know you're getting set up with a psychiatrist. You can still get diagnosed with ADHD by a psychologist, but they don't prescribe medication, so you'll have to wait another 1-3 months to meet with someone who can after you get diagnosed.

Re: 2nd year Comp Sci student that just now figured out I have ADD

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I haven't been medicated for my pretty severe ADD in years (I was very uncomfortable with the personality changes/dampening of creativity/unknown health impact of meds, etc.), thinking I could summon the willpower and discipline to get through it. I've been spiraling downward in a tailspin of "unproductivity" - to coin a state of being - for a while now, leaving a trail of half started startups and projects in my wak…

The book the OP mentioned, Delivered From Distraction, is a great resource. The author is a psychiatrist who does a good job of presenting med and non-med options in a balanced way. He has ADD himself and did not find that meds helped him (they work for 80-90% of folks), though they have helped his children and many other patients/friends he describes.

Basic things like regular exercise can help, but meds are still a mainstay for treatment. Although studies have shown therapy to be as effective as meds for depression, there isn't great evidence for therapy for ADD. Meds are effective for most folks, have practically no side effects (at least the stimulants, Strattera can have side effects though it has other advantages), and have been safely used for decades without safety issues. The effects of the stimulants also disappear within hours so if you don't like being on a med you can simply stop. It won't change who you are. And if one med doesn't work well, sometimes another works better.

Re: 2nd year Comp Sci student that just now figured out I have ADD

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Just like some others here, I feel like I could have written this post myself. I was diagnosed w/ ADD at five and have only recently sought treatment (at age 34). I resisted the idea of taking meds for years but now I'm kicking myself for waiting so long to address the issue. My entire life, I've been limited to intellectual disciplines that I could assimilate w/in 48 hours or just BS my way through (liberal arts). If I had been able to read more than two pages w/o losing focus, things may have been different. Now I'm receiving treatment and for the first time in my life, I think that I might be able correct the problem (or at least mitigate it). For me, that means accepting that I can't do it without help.

My advice is to talk to more than one mental health professional. Try to keep an open mind about the different methods and combinations of methods used to treat ADD. Whatever you decide, do not wait to address the issue.

Re: 2nd year Comp Sci student that just now figured out I have ADD

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Thank you for sharing this, I am in a similar situation and often think this, however always fall back to the "I'm just being lazy train of thought".

I didn't actually make it through the exams that would allow me to study Computer Science, after studying hard I just couldn't concentrate when it came to the exam, I had plenty of time and knew it was important however couldn't focus. (I was like this throughout most of my education, good in class - failed the exams)

Perhaps this is just more excuses in a modern world full of distractions, either way I think I'll seek some professional advice.

Re: 2nd year Comp Sci student that just now figured out I have ADD

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I haven't been medicated for my pretty severe ADD in years (I was very uncomfortable with the personality changes/dampening of creativity/unknown health impact of meds, etc.), thinking I could summon the willpower and discipline to get through it. I've been spiraling downward in a tailspin of "unproductivity" - to coin a state of being - for a while now, leaving a trail of half started startups and projects in my wak…

>Am I kidding myself thinking I can somehow get past this without medication? Is there any other REAL path forward?

Maybe. But this is something that you really need to talk to a therapist or doctor about.

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