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Re: Twitter Music will integrate Spotify, Rdio, iTunes, Soundcloud, Vevo and Youtube

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Post by jervisfm »

onedev wrote: post #13
Splendor wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Spotify as my primary music listening service and their music discovery is terrible. I'll gladly listen to Spotify through Twitter if it means better charts of new music, popular music, etc.

Use Spotify for music library management and access across all platforms. Use Pandora for music discovery. Problem solved!

My dream wish is if someone could make a Pandora-like app ( both of in terms of functionality and quality) built on top of Spotify. I know spotify offers some API but don't know if this would be possible.

IIRC Pandora has a catalog size of about 1 million vs ~20 million for Spotify and yet they have been able to do a superb job in song recommendations. I find Spotify radio to be pretty terrible at this.

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Post by k-mcgrady »

jfb wrote: post #28
jechen wrote: post #9

Do we really need another music app? How many of us are (or planning to) use Twitter for music discovery? For the average consumer, Spotify has just about everything for anyone. For the avid listener, there are hundreds of quality music blogs dedicated every niche out there. It seems like Twitter decided they wanted a slice of the pie- I fail to see how this could possibly fit into my use case for Twitter (if it's ev…

It will fail as all other attempts at algorithmic music discovery have failed. Curation (via blogs, &c.) is still by far a better experience.

We haven't even seen the service yet. I think there will be a lot more human curation than algorithmic discovery.

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Post by jervisfm »

fady wrote: post #27
onedev wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Use Spotify for music library management and access across all platforms. Use Pandora for music discovery. Problem solved!

+1 for pandora. +2 for waffles.fm and what.cd ;)

What is what.cd?

Re: Twitter Music will integrate Spotify, Rdio, iTunes, Soundcloud, Vevo and Youtube

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Post by jervisfm »

mijustin wrote: post #22

While I'm not that interested in music discovery, I would definitely be interested in podcast discovery. I'd be interested in seeing what podcasts the people I follow on Twitter are listening to.

Yeah, I had the same thought as as well. As a start, are there any podcast here that people listen to and would highly recommend ? They can be dev-related but other topics is fine too. Any must listen suggestions/recommendations ?

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Post by devonbarrett »

kristopolous wrote: post #30
jechen wrote: post #9

Do we really need another music app? How many of us are (or planning to) use Twitter for music discovery? For the average consumer, Spotify has just about everything for anyone. For the avid listener, there are hundreds of quality music blogs dedicated every niche out there. It seems like Twitter decided they wanted a slice of the pie- I fail to see how this could possibly fit into my use case for Twitter (if it's ev…

There is a group of highly dissatisfied users (like me) who have found that current solutions are really inadequate. You'll have to trust me on this. Using suggestion models based on curated reputable crowdsourcing as opposed to simply volume of popularity is a way around this. Here's a contrived example; say I'm looking for something that goes well with say, Lonnie Smiths' 1980 "In the Park" ( http://www.youtube.com…

take a look at grooveshark its the best social music experience I've had

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Post by josh2600 »

hkmurakami wrote: post #29
josh2600 wrote: post #25

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Great point. I'd argue that a partnership with Twitter is amongst two equal (or near equal) parties OR one where Twitter is the smaller player. A non-partnership relationship is all relationships with Twitter that are between Twitter and a smaller organization. It's completely asinine to have two separate policies for small kids and big kids, yet that's what we see at Twitter. Is this an example of the 80/20 rule or…

>A non-partnership relationship is all relationships with Twitter that are between Twitter and a smaller organization. Twitter is valued somewhere in the ballpark of $5BB, so every single streaming music provider (as opposed to the download/purchase platforms of Amazon/Apple/Google) is small fish compared to Twitter.

Apple and Google are certainly not small fish... They're two of the highlighted companies, aren't they?

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Post by smosher »

mehrzad wrote: post #2

But not Last.fm? I hope that's not true. Honestly slightly annoyed that each of these social media companies want to become everything for everyone.

Last.fm was excluded due to "licensing issues."

I don't mean that literally, I mean that in the same sense last.fm uses it when presenting it as an excuse for the downward spiral they pretend is a service. Whether they're inflexible with regards to any kind of deal with Twitter or, or Twitter was uninterested in including them, it's their own fault—and direct a product of whatever "licensing issues" really means.

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Post by DavidChouinard »

jervisfm wrote: post #34
mijustin wrote: post #22

While I'm not that interested in music discovery, I would definitely be interested in podcast discovery. I'd be interested in seeing what podcasts the people I follow on Twitter are listening to.

Yeah, I had the same thought as as well. As a start, are there any podcast here that people listen to and would highly recommend ? They can be dev-related but other topics is fine too. Any must listen suggestions/recommendations ?

I highly recommend Radiolab (http://www.radiolab.org/), it's one of the most respected podcasts out there. It's changed the way I see the world.

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Post by hkmurakami »

josh2600 wrote: post #36
hkmurakami wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>A non-partnership relationship is all relationships with Twitter that are between Twitter and a smaller organization. Twitter is valued somewhere in the ballpark of $5BB, so every single streaming music provider (as opposed to the download/purchase platforms of Amazon/Apple/Google) is small fish compared to Twitter.

Apple and Google are certainly not small fish... They're two of the highlighted companies, aren't they?

Apologies if I wasn't clear. I had meant the music providers "other than" Apple/Google/Amazon.

(I believe Apple/Google/Amazon only provide discrete music downloads, rather than streaming services. Apologies if I had misconceptions about their service offerings)

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Post by tod222 »

onedev wrote: post #13
Splendor wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Spotify as my primary music listening service and their music discovery is terrible. I'll gladly listen to Spotify through Twitter if it means better charts of new music, popular music, etc.

Use Spotify for music library management and access across all platforms. Use Pandora for music discovery. Problem solved!

Last time I checked, Pandora's catalog was far too limited to be valuable to me for discovery. It was easy to come up with a half a dozen artists I like that Pandora had no clue about.

To me the word "discovery" means finding unknown works, not simply another way to listen to an artist who is already well established.

Pandora for discovery is a nonstarter, at least for me.

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