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Punchfork shutdown inspires Open Recipes

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Re: Punchfork shutdown inspires Open Recipes

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Post by arbuge »

guelo wrote: post #7

Startups that are based on user-contributed content are based on fraud in the sense that they imply to their users that the contributed data will always be available. But it's a lie, the user's data is only being used to explore a potential market. If the market idea proves successful the company will be sold and shutdown. If the idea is unsuccessful it will also be shutdown. Startups should be required to tell users…

Startup projects at bigger companies could be just as risky as a startup company. Where do you draw the line on requiring such a warning? It doesn't sound realistic to me.

Re: Punchfork shutdown inspires Open Recipes

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Post by toomuchtodo »

tlrobinson wrote: post #30
eah13 wrote: post #3

I could see posthaven turning into an API that any site could integrate with so that users knew their data was safe. Depending on the site and type of user data, this type of exportability/backupability could be a real differentiating feature.

Idea: a browser extension that automatically scrapes and archives your data as you browse a site. Power-users can submit scrapers for new/modified sites. Normally scrapers can be detected and blocked, but if it's passively running in the background on a user's machine, opportunistically grabbing data the user is already viewing, it should be impossible to detect.

Running as an extension has been done before (SEE: PACER Recap Extension: https://www.recapthelaw.org/)

Re: Punchfork shutdown inspires Open Recipes

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Post by garry »

tlrobinson wrote: post #30
eah13 wrote: post #3

I could see posthaven turning into an API that any site could integrate with so that users knew their data was safe. Depending on the site and type of user data, this type of exportability/backupability could be a real differentiating feature.

Idea: a browser extension that automatically scrapes and archives your data as you browse a site. Power-users can submit scrapers for new/modified sites. Normally scrapers can be detected and blocked, but if it's passively running in the background on a user's machine, opportunistically grabbing data the user is already viewing, it should be impossible to detect.

This is a great idea. I've actually wanted to do this before. Browser plugins are one fundamental tool in the war against web tyranny. For instance, crawling Craigslist could be accomplished this way in a way that was unblockable.

This needs to exist.

Re: Punchfork shutdown inspires Open Recipes

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Post by blantonl »

So yet another business gets it's start by only using content from another site(s) via data scraping, and they are upset that their source of content was acquired and shutdown? Cry me a river...

This reminds me of the Craigslist/Pad-Mapper event, except that Craigslist hasn't been acquired.

Re: Punchfork shutdown inspires Open Recipes

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Post by michael_h »

blantonl wrote: post #35

So yet another business gets it's start by only using content from another site(s) via data scraping, and they are upset that their source of content was acquired and shutdown? Cry me a river... This reminds me of the Craigslist/Pad-Mapper event, except that Craigslist hasn't been acquired.

I think you may have misread. The article is upset because his user data is being taken away. Punchfork acquired their data by scraping recipe publishers. Hugspoon wanted to liberate the user data by scraping punchfork.

Re: Punchfork shutdown inspires Open Recipes

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Post by [deleted] »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #20
jedschmidt wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I (and all Punchfork users, I assume) received a notification on January 3rd, including the following: Initially, support for Punchfork will continue, but we will soon be retiring the Punchfork site, API and mobile apps. We believe that a unified destination benefits our users in the long run, and the Punchfork team (me) will focus on contributing to Pinterest as the premier platform for discovering and sharing new r…

Hmm, nothing about where you could download your data from?

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Re: Punchfork shutdown inspires Open Recipes

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Post by bvttf »

ChuckMcM wrote: post #20
jedschmidt wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I (and all Punchfork users, I assume) received a notification on January 3rd, including the following: Initially, support for Punchfork will continue, but we will soon be retiring the Punchfork site, API and mobile apps. We believe that a unified destination benefits our users in the long run, and the Punchfork team (me) will focus on contributing to Pinterest as the premier platform for discovering and sharing new r…

Hmm, nothing about where you could download your data from?

Jason Scott may be your only hope: https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/313386087802351616

Re: Punchfork shutdown inspires Open Recipes

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Post by abdophoto »

guelo wrote: post #7

Startups that are based on user-contributed content are based on fraud in the sense that they imply to their users that the contributed data will always be available. But it's a lie, the user's data is only being used to explore a potential market. If the market idea proves successful the company will be sold and shutdown. If the idea is unsuccessful it will also be shutdown. Startups should be required to tell users…

That's a pretty ridiculous thing to say.

Re: Punchfork shutdown inspires Open Recipes

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Post by lessnonymous »

You young 'uns. Do you not remember S.O.A.R.?

SOAR had its beginnings in 1993 when someone collected all the recipes she found on Usenet and mailing lists while at UCB.

In 1995 she put the archive on the web as "SOAR" .. the "Searchable Online Archive of Recipies".

In 2001, that moved from (IIRC) a subdomain of UCB and became "Recipe Source" and can still be found at http://www.recipesource.com/

It's very old now, and majorly lacking in features. But then I've never found a recipe site that gave me everything I needed.

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