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Apple’s Jony Ive Pushing iOS Interface Team For ‘Flat’ Design

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Re: Apple’s Jony Ive Pushing iOS Interface Team For ‘Flat’ Design

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Yes, this. Look at the new podcast app that was just updated.

the old one, for anyone who never saw it, was made to look like a reel-to-reel magnetic tape player.

Am I the only person in the world who actually liked that?

Re: Apple’s Jony Ive Pushing iOS Interface Team For ‘Flat’ Design

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Why do I have the impression that if they go flat, they'll be hailed as geniuses and Microsoft will be forgotten forever? (This comment guaranteed 100% conspirationist and crazy)

Why do you think Microsoft invented flat UI design? I for one will miss the current iOS design. I'm 1 year into Android and I'm still way faster on iOS. There is a clear distinction between what is interaction vs. what is not and my eye instantly maps out the interactive elements on the screen.

Each to their own, I am the complete opposite. I came from an iPhone and switched to Android. I am much faster on Android, task switching is worlds apart, animations are faster and smoother, the apps I use follow Holo design language (this is by choice) meaning the UI is consistent and beautiful. I'm not saying it's perfect, there are some things I miss from iOS like unread badges (easy to get back with Nova Launcher however) and I did like Airplay, Android certainly has plenty of room to refine and improve, but it would take some massive and fundamental changes for me to consider switching back to iOS.

Re: Apple’s Jony Ive Pushing iOS Interface Team For ‘Flat’ Design

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I'm not so sure I am all that excited about Ive getting into the UI design that much. Flat, reductionist design sensibilities are good, but not when they go unchecked. Is there anyone at Apple with the weight to say to Ive, "that looks sexy, but no-one gets it"?

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Why do I have the impression that if they go flat, they'll be hailed as geniuses and Microsoft will be forgotten forever? (This comment guaranteed 100% conspirationist and crazy)

Why do you think Microsoft invented flat UI design? I for one will miss the current iOS design. I'm 1 year into Android and I'm still way faster on iOS. There is a clear distinction between what is interaction vs. what is not and my eye instantly maps out the interactive elements on the screen.

I can see how my comment could be interpreted as hinting that Microsoft invented flat UI design, yet it wasn't the point I was trying to make as it is most likely untrue :)

What I was going for here is that even though they didn't CREATE the movement of flat UI design, they most certainly helped its most recent resurgence in the "collective mind" by placing it back on the map with their Metro interface (which I think is actually pretty sweet yet still bears the marks of the older OS UI designs of the XP/Vista/7 era).

And I somehow feel that there's a difference in treatment between Microsoft and Apple (case in point is Microsoft brilliant technology for on-the-fly translations in video conferences which blew my mind). Just to be clear about my intentions with this here comment, I dislike Windows as an OS, switched to Linux about 10 years ago and I am currently and happily running OS X, this is not fanboy-ism.

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the old one, for anyone who never saw it, was made to look like a reel-to-reel magnetic tape player.

Am I the only person in the world who actually liked that?

i did too, i thought it was playful, but it was a pretty bad app performance wise on a 4 or 4s which was mind boggling.

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Notification center isn't designed similarly to Android's equivalent... Like, at all. They function similarly, but if you're referring to Apple copying functionality then you've missed the whole point of this discussion.

I still hate the x buttons on their notification centre.

The x buttons that are nearly impossible to activate, that you actually have to hit twice perfectly to do what you want, the ones that break their own UI guidelines of how big something should be so that people can use it? I feel your pain.

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You have got to be kidding. That looks terrible and wastes half the space on the screen. It's not even very good skeuomorphism, the drop shadows aren't in a consistent direction, and the layering of the brushes and canvas doesn't make sense.

Right, that's not 'fantastic' design-wise, but skeuomorphism has a clear function in this case. That's my point.

Other than the paint mixing area, how is that any better than something like SketchBook Pro? I can't even tell which controls will bring up submenus or secondary controls.

Re: Apple’s Jony Ive Pushing iOS Interface Team For ‘Flat’ Design

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Why do I have the impression that if they go flat, they'll be hailed as geniuses and Microsoft will be forgotten forever? (This comment guaranteed 100% conspirationist and crazy)

Hate to be a fanboy, but probably because they'd do an awesome job of it (where MS certainly has not).

Apple can really do no wrong. It's impossible to think of any proposal Apple could have which would not receive this response, unless it was inoculating orphans with polio or something.

Re: Apple’s Jony Ive Pushing iOS Interface Team For ‘Flat’ Design

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And please get rid of that ridiculous blue! Anyone using Messages, Mail and Contacts on iPhone has this eye soar sticking right in front. How in the world can someone pick such a strange color and then add that stranger blue bar(I know its automatic) at top.

I would be happy to see flat design, but in increments only. And maybe it is time for Apple to leave "best for beginners" ideology and care a bit about advanced users. Give us a little freedom, let me change my default apps, let Siri do more things and small things like that.

Re: Apple’s Jony Ive Pushing iOS Interface Team For ‘Flat’ Design

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Why do I have the impression that if they go flat, they'll be hailed as geniuses and Microsoft will be forgotten forever? (This comment guaranteed 100% conspirationist and crazy)

Possibly because they'll do it right and not have the amorphous mess that is Windows 8? There's sparks of brilliance in Metro, but it's too goddamn flat. It's not obvious what parts of the UI can be clicked and manipulated. Apple is also hailed as genius for "inventing the tablet" even though Microsoft tried to make tablets happen for a decade before the iPad. It's just an example of execution having more impact than…

Dismissing Microsoft's metro design by calling Windows 8 is a typical example of a straw man that you get to see here on HN. Flat design as it is done in the Metro UI on Windows 8 is gorgeous particularly on touch based machines. The fact that there also exists an older UI is because of the legacy that Microsoft has to support It's the price you have to pay for being in business for 30 years. I clearly see the need to go to non-metro UI diminishing as new updates and apps come along. Command line UI lingered on for a while after windows 3.1 came and the legacy UI will probably have the same lifeline.
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