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Why I left news

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Re: Why I left news

#31

Interesting. I had a friend who was a college reporter and broke some huge stories on our campus (women being raped, frat member having nervous breakdown, catching network hackers) and was stoked to work for a large daily when he graduated. This was back in the late 90's btw. Just as the author pointed out, he loved his job at first, then it became demanding and he went through several rounds of burnout and then saw…

Mainstream Reporting's downfall isn't the result of any real decrease in the quality as much as an availability of alternatives.

Journalism has always been dodgy, it's just a lot more obvious these days.

Re: Why I left news

#32

The problem is that there is not enough financial benefit to being first to a story, or getting a story right, or having the best article. Websites who report the news but never leave their office desk all day (ie, reposting AP stories and re-blogging, Mashable and Techcrunch for instance) make as much money as those that do real "in field" news work. And that brings down the value of real "in field" news work. Back…

The issue isn't what hoops you should jump through before you publish a story. It's what you as a reporter need to do to serve your reader best — period.

You have to distinguish between reporters who should be out in the field — political and crime beat reporters, for example — and those whose field actually is their desk. There's no reason for many of the reporters at Mashable and TechCrunch to leave their desks. They're writing about hardware and software. They need to be there to test and use the tools in order to write about them. How is visiting a grieving mother going to help with that?

There's something else about technology reporting that people should keep in mind before they criticize: The industry is secretive. Except when you have access to inside, quasi-legal/ethical/reliable information sources, you as a reporter have no way of knowing the news until the company or researcher is ready to reveal it to you. That usually coincides with a press release, but that doesn't mean the work is merely regurgitating a press release. Every story means learning the tool; having the ability to learn quickly is not a negative. It's the result of an inquisitive, focused, interested mind capable of grasping the arcane and translating that into something meaningful for people who are counting on you to help them get their work done.

I'm a tech reporter and a subject matter expert in a few specialized areas. I would put my expertise against anybody in my field, and I'm certainly more knowledgeable than the PR people who put out corporate releases rife with technical inaccuracies. I didn't get this way by chatting up CEOs or interviewing the man on the street. I got this way by setting up my autism station and plugging away at it day and night, weekday and weekend, holiday or no holiday, asking questions of engineers when I stumble, then writing about what I learned in a way that people can understand.

My readers benefit from that. That's what matters.

Re: Why I left news

#33
"Newspapers make 80% of their income from legal notices in this state. That's the only thing keeping them alive." That's what a local reporter told me recently when he was discussing his retirement.

He also said most of the reporters have lost their jobs and only a tiny group remain. That makes sense, as the newspaper is now 20% the size it was ten years ago. There's maybe one or two 'investigative' articles each week and rest are AP news, local sports, or articles about local shops and what they sell.

Re: Why I left news

#34
It just feels like we're not doing this (news) right if smart journalists can't be compensated well for their work. I think someone is going to come along and figure out a way of doing news that is spectacularly better than what we're doing ... kinda the way nobody got mobile correct till Steve Jobs came along.

... but then again I'm kind of a romantic when it comes to the news.

Re: Why I left news

#35
She writes with passion, pathos, and poignancy. It's easy to feel her pains. Lots of emotionalism.

But she misses two much larger 'stories': First, what's happened to the 'news' business is a short term disaster on top of a long term tragedy. Second, what's happened to the news business is one more case of what's happened to big parts of the US economy.

It appears that society has one need from the news business, and that business has one need from society: Society needs from the news business solid, useful, important information on government, foreign affairs, the economy, etc., and the news business needs from society eyeballs to get ad revenue. At this point, neither society nor the news business is getting what they need.

More generally, my view has long been that what society needs from the news business, "information on government, ..." is so important and has been so poorly provided that the news business is, may I have the envelope, please (drum roll), the most serious problem facing our country and our civilization. In simple terms, the norms of the news business just have not been to provide the information our society needs. There is a nice, not really comprehensive but still nice, view of what the news business has been doing in the OP -- next to nothing to do with providing the information society needs.

Instead of the information, for at least 100 years or so the main product of the news business has been just light entertainment. The 'story' telling techniques have been borrowed from formula fiction going back to the ancient Greeks -- a protagonist to identify with who has a problem, threats, evil (especially as in the morality plays), black/white hats, etc. Drama? Yes. Solid information? No.

Thus my view is that this lack of information caused, say, for just a short list of a few little things, The Great Depression, WWII, the Cold War, the wars in Viet Nam, The Great Recession, the devastation of the US 'rust belt', etc. That is, my solid belief is that with some solid information instead of just formula fiction techniques to tell dramatic stories for light entertainment, we could have avoided all those disasters.

For some evidence about my claims about the lack of solid information in the news content, the level of content featured on HN and in the comments is large steps above the standards of any well known news outlet -- magazine, newspaper, TV, or Internet.

Information quality? The news business has a tough time reporting percentages meaningfully: E.g., "up 5%". Okay a percentage change is a measurement a at time s and a measurement b at time t and then

     100 * ( b - a ) / a
and the "up 5%" omits the times and is unclear if the change is an annual rate, or not. So, the "up 5%" is just drama for entertainment and not information. Next the news media regards graphs of numerical data as just opportunities for graphic arts. So, they fail to indicate units on the axes, etc.; the graphs they do would do poorly in freshman physics or engineering labs.

It goes on. The output of the news business is rarely significantly useful. Did I mention that their goal was just light entertainment?

Re: Why I left news

#36
I love her article - but I don't understand how anyone can ever write a 1500 word story about a decline of the newspaper industry, and the business side of it, without mentioning "craigslist" as least once.

Craigslist single handedly wiped out the American newspaper's classified section, and with that revenue gone, pretty much shattered the business model of the vast majority of the dailies.

Re: Why I left news

#37
Best lines: "vanity of a byline" "I no longer can introduce myself as a reporter and watch people’s eyes light up"

I was a TV producer and can relate. Part of the attraction was to be where the action is, but increasingly main stream media is not that place. A byline does not necessarily equal impact.

I quit and co-founded a startup that will do more for journalism than my work in TV, but in a less public way that people can't relate to. Media Spot Me is for journalists to discover people to interview. Something that was a central pain-point of mine.

I still appreciate the possibility of the media but like you said it is not as sexy inside as it sounds when talking about it to others.

Re: Why I left news

#38
post #9

When I was a reporter, I was asked to move into newspaper's newly formed "multimedia" department because I was one of the only staff members with a computer engineering degree, even though my degree's emphasis had nothing to do with multimedia or web development. It turned out to be a lucky opportunity for me though, if I hadn't taken it I would today most likely be in the OP's position: young enough to be a cheap as…

Unfortunately too many younger journalists don't think PHP or SQL is important or is part of journalism. Hard to have a real sense of something without giving it a chance.

It takes effort to learn new skills and is not what they were (incorrectly) told they would need to do at journalism school so they see it as "tech" work not journalism.

But in the end most of them people will be unemployed and complain about the industry and how it was impossible to find a job. Big data is a big deal in journalism, too bad they never gave it a chance.

I got to a point where my technical skills were out of date as I was working in a place focused on the same old same old. I left and co-founded a startup mediaspotme.com that will do more to support journalism than my work at a TV producer on a Charlie Rose type show in Toronto. I have already built lot of"tech" skills, before I was never on HN.

Re: Why I left news

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post #35

She writes with passion, pathos, and poignancy. It's easy to feel her pains. Lots of emotionalism. But she misses two much larger 'stories': First, what's happened to the 'news' business is a short term disaster on top of a long term tragedy. Second, what's happened to the news business is one more case of what's happened to big parts of the US economy. It appears that society has one need from the news business, and…

Yes, society needs information on government, to keep them accountable. Yet you miss the bigger picture too: it's not just government. We need information on oligarchic networks, corporations, executives like the police, plutocrats who buy influence and corrupt: ie anyone who will pillage you and your community's wellbeing for their selfish ends with no justification.

Sousveillance of the powerful by all of us is necessary. And we, the nerds and geeks with the information machine skills are the ones to do it. If you're not thinking about this, you will suffer in the end. Look at what happened to Aaron.

Re: Why I left news

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post #23

Newspapers always have been liberal places where people work hard for little pay, because they believe in the job. I think this is a recent phenomenon. A friend who works in journalism said that the answer to "why do you want to be a journalist?" used to be "because I want to report the truth." At one point the answer changed to "because I want to change the world." The dividing point? Watergate. Also, the attraction…

>The dividing point? Watergate Exactly. That's why what we got now is agenda instead of facts

There were never facts. From the sophists to modern times news has always been shaky on Truth, and righty so. The contestation is magic, although we have lost in recent years even the pretence of some kind of semblance of impartiality.
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