Flat UI DMCA Takedown • Hacker News Board

Re: Flat UI DMCA Takedown

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Post by capisce » Fri, Mar 08, 2013, 8:38 AM UTC

overshard wrote: post #16

usaphp wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

because they actually took it down.

It was actually down at the time of that post too. I know because I was using Flat UI in a new project and had to ditch their vector illustrations which were the items in question from this DMCA.

I was not aware from the original post that the project had actually been taken down, and now thanks to pyre's comment I know a bit more about how the DMCA takedown process works. It seems to me that the process is quite vulnerable to Denial-of-service attacks, as demonstrated by the case in question.

Re: Flat UI DMCA Takedown

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Post by krichman » Fri, Mar 08, 2013, 8:41 AM UTC

ryanpetrich wrote: post #26

porker wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there any checking that the named submitter actually submitted it? Anything to prevent someone forging a DMCA? Daft to do no doubt, but still an option to damage a company.

Penalty of perjury.

As posted a couple of days ago it seems like the only penalty of perjury matter is that you are the copyright holder or can legally represent the copyright holder.

I also don't see what would stop someone from sending thousands of DMCA takedowns from TOR or some anonymising VPN, laying waste to an entire website for 10 days.

Re: Flat UI DMCA Takedown

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Post by capisce » Fri, Mar 08, 2013, 8:42 AM UTC

dagw wrote: post #10

kombine wrote: post #2

Just read the DCMA notice. Does it really mean anyone can write this sort of message, without any details or proof and you have to oblige to it?

Basically. But if someone files a fraudulent or incorrect notice, they open themselves up to having to pay damages and legal fees to the injured party.

Only if the injured party can afford expensive and not necessarily open-and-shut legal action.

Re: Flat UI DMCA Takedown

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Post by enra » Fri, Mar 08, 2013, 8:43 AM UTC

nwh wrote: post #11

jared314 wrote: post #6

I have never seen the inside of LayerVault. The demo page only has vague outlines of similar controls. Does anyone have screenshots of LayerVault in action?

All I could find. http://i.imgur.com/yFHlGVH.png http://i.imgur.com/VX1h4Xj.png http://i.imgur.com/oyAYDM8.png http://i.imgur.com/ZUlf0hF.png http://i.imgur.com/QMSTZ8k.png Given that they don't show it off on their demo page, it's either incomplete or clunky.

Those are pretty old pictures, and for sure it's not clunky. You can try out the 30-day trial for free. Nowadays it looks like this: http://cl.ly/image/1k230I2l421S

Re: Flat UI DMCA Takedown

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Post by mrspeaker » Fri, Mar 08, 2013, 8:58 AM UTC

grumble... I didn't grab it the other day for a prototype I am going to make because "it's on github when I need it" ;)

Re: Flat UI DMCA Takedown

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Post by moondowner » Fri, Mar 08, 2013, 9:04 AM UTC

pkorzeniewski wrote: post #28

donpark wrote: post #17

I think these are the icons in question from LayerVault, DesignMode, and similar icons from Noun Project. http://imgur.com/IH1osAD

So they have taken down the whole project just because of three similar looking icons? That's ridiculous

And the colors used are exactly the same: http://pixxel.co/feed/layervault-issues-dmca-takedown

Re: Flat UI DMCA Takedown

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Post by pyalot2 » Fri, Mar 08, 2013, 9:06 AM UTC

Good luck Layervault, you might want to think about this some harder.

Github search found 116 repositories: https://github.com/search?q=flat-ui&ref=commandbar

There are 48 forks alone of this single fork: https://github.com/iurevych/Flat-UI/network/members

The project itself shows 129 forks.

You really prepared to piss off hundreds of people by sending a DMCA takedown to each and every one? Really? Do you know when to stop digging? Is the hole deep enough yet? Found some suspicious odorous dark substance? I can tell you, it's not oil.

Re: Flat UI DMCA Takedown

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Post by Lord_DeathMatch » Fri, Mar 08, 2013, 9:07 AM UTC

kbar13 wrote: post #19

woah look at what happens when you try to fork it.

yikes

Re: Flat UI DMCA Takedown

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Post by salmanapk » Fri, Mar 08, 2013, 9:08 AM UTC

abcd_f wrote: post #9

LayerVault, the same people who brought you DesignerNews. If that's indeed them who sent the notice, they are just shitting all over their reputation and alienating a lot of people. Talk about "starting off on the wrong foot"... and for what? A design that is border-line trivial. It would seem that their best option for getting the situation under control is to release their own version of the toolkit. A version that…

Damn people are so dumb.. way to ruin your reputation. This is why I should start my own start-up :|

Oh and did the developer of Flat UI file a counter takedown notice?

Edit: Sorry if I offended anyone, just posted what I thought.

Re: Flat UI DMCA Takedown

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Post by mootothemax » Fri, Mar 08, 2013, 9:12 AM UTC

moondowner wrote: post #36

pkorzeniewski wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So they have taken down the whole project just because of three similar looking icons? That's ridiculous

And the colors used are exactly the same: http://pixxel.co/feed/layervault-issues-dmca-takedown

And the colors used are exactly the same

Google uses the same:

http://i.imgur.com/qJXJUaH.png