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Docs page doesn't seem to be loading properly for me... It's as if the CSS file isn't loading. I've tried it in 3 browsers.
You're not the only one.
I don't understand the whole mobile first thing? Isn't Foundation already responsive? Don't most websites built with Foundation's grid system automatically fit nicely on mobile devices? Am I missing something?
Yes.
> Don't most websites built with Foundation's grid system automatically fit nicely on mobile devices?
Yes, but responsive designs always means tradeoffs, and those tradeoffs will be different depending whether you're "desktop first" and scaling down or "mobile first" and scaling up. And of course, the framework can set a course on what to check and where to start from.
Luke Wroblewski is a big advocate of tackling responsive design from the bottom ("Mobile First"): http://www.lukew.com/ff/entry.asp?933 http://www.abookapart.com/products/mobile-first and he apparently pushed for Foundation 4 to much better support this design style.
I don't understand the whole mobile first thing? Isn't Foundation already responsive? Don't most websites built with Foundation's grid system automatically fit nicely on mobile devices? Am I missing something?
I think it's a matter of orientation. Rather than creating a Desktop site and then scaling it down, you're creating a Mobile site and scaling it up.
I haven't really put much thought into it, but this may actually make more sense, since you're creating the minimum viable product first, and then adding to it, rather than creating a full project and then trying to figure out what to hack away.
Thats unexpected. With bootstrap the whole package is ready-to-go in each release...
"Not tested in 4" for add-ons http://foundation.zurb.com/icon-fonts.php . Thats unexpected. With bootstrap the whole package is ready-to-go in each release...
What's the advantage of using Foundation over Bootstrap?
With Foundation, it is much easier to override their styling and build something that is unique. You feel more like you are working WITH a framework, as opposed to working AGAINST one - which is how I feel using Bootstrap.
Either way, you can't go wrong, but if you value saving time by not overriding a million CSS rules when designing your site - go with Foundation.
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Foundation is more flexible. Bootstrap is very opinionated. Bootstrap is awesome for people who aren't comfortable with CSS and just want to put up something quick and don't mind if it looks like every other site out there. Foundation lets you write better markup. Also, If I remember correctly... Bootstrap has caught up now, but in earlier versions, their grid wasn't nestable, which made it almost useless for suffici…
Do you have any specifics on why you consider Bootstrap more opinionated? I've used both on a few different sites and haven't really noticed this.
http://foundation.zurb.com/docs/ is broken