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Google reveals plans for 1.1M square foot, 4 floor ‘Bay View’ campus near SF Bay

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Re: Google reveals plans for 1.1M square foot, 4 floor ‘Bay View’ campus near SF Bay

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Post by dyno12345 »

OGinparadise wrote: post #29
nlh wrote: post #17

My only fear when I read about these campuses (Apple's 'spaceship' in particular) is the old adage about the 'curse of the new HQ'. See: http://www.businessinsider.com/poorly-timed-headquarters-200... I know it's a bit superstitious, but the basic idea is that when a company starts building temples to itself and its employees, that means their focus has shifted and their eye is getting off the ball. I hope it's not t…

Interesting. Apple is doing 'great' but the stock market (1) disagrees so almost by definition it isn't doing good. Investors see clouds in the horizon and don't want to look at the $50 billion they might make in profit this year. Is Apple going to grow by 10 to 20% a year? Google reported huge revenue increases and the stock is on fire but not because of new ventures or customers, they just added even more ads to th…

I think investors think Apple has done so well it now has nowhere to go but down. Something like 50% of Apple's revenue comes from the iPhone, in a market where you're only as good as your latest product and they only release one product a year.

Re: Google reveals plans for 1.1M square foot, 4 floor ‘Bay View’ campus near SF Bay

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Post by dyno12345 »

pests wrote: post #26
rogerbinns wrote: post #19

Looking at the image I see 5 floors. Is counting done differently, the image not right or the headline wrong?

Not sure if it applies in this instance but some customs have it so the ground floor is not counted and the second floor is referred to as the first and so on.

They would still call it a two story building

Re: Google reveals plans for 1.1M square foot, 4 floor ‘Bay View’ campus near SF Bay

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Post by paulsowden »

rogerbinns wrote: post #19

Looking at the image I see 5 floors. Is counting done differently, the image not right or the headline wrong?

This is a misquote in the NW title; the original Vanity Fair article states "The new campus, which the company is calling Bay View, consists of nine roughly similar structures, most of which will be four stories high, and all of which are shaped like rectangles that have been bent in the middle."

Re: Google reveals plans for 1.1M square foot, 4 floor ‘Bay View’ campus near SF Bay

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Post by mc32 »

mmanfrin wrote: post #4

For a minute I thought they might be revitalizing one of the poorer neighborhoods of SF; but no, 'Bay View' does not reference Bayview.

I don't think that would have been well received. Locals would have decried that SF gov 'gives in' to big corp at the expense of the local population (i.e. not creating jobs many locals could fill and that land that could be used for affordable housing was being bid up by big corp) and probably would have added that not many from the Bayview would have benefitted directly. That's SF politics. People want the clean baby without the bathwater.

Lowes+HomeDepot (HD started but bailed and Lowes took over) went thru some idiotic approval process to build their Bayshore location --about 12 or more years after Goodman Lumber closed its doors.

Re: Google reveals plans for 1.1M square foot, 4 floor ‘Bay View’ campus near SF Bay

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Post by paulsowden »

nthitz wrote: post #6

"As this project progresses, we’ll continue to work closely with NASA, the community and the City of Mountain View." I must be confused, but what does any of this have to do with NASA?

The land the buildings are being built on are leased from NASA.

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/news/releases/2008/08_51AR....

The bayview land is here: http://goo.gl/maps/PY8UD

(Source: http://laserfiche.mountainview.gov/WebLink/DocView.aspx?id=5...)

Re: Google reveals plans for 1.1M square foot, 4 floor ‘Bay View’ campus near SF Bay

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Post by OGinparadise »

dyno12345 wrote: post #31
OGinparadise wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting. Apple is doing 'great' but the stock market (1) disagrees so almost by definition it isn't doing good. Investors see clouds in the horizon and don't want to look at the $50 billion they might make in profit this year. Is Apple going to grow by 10 to 20% a year? Google reported huge revenue increases and the stock is on fire but not because of new ventures or customers, they just added even more ads to th…

I think investors think Apple has done so well it now has nowhere to go but down. Something like 50% of Apple's revenue comes from the iPhone, in a market where you're only as good as your latest product and they only release one product a year.

True, even though China and India might save them for a while. But then carrier subsidies might cease here.

Maybe that's why they build temples like the OP said, they are on top of the world. The next likely move, however, is down.

Re: Google reveals plans for 1.1M square foot, 4 floor ‘Bay View’ campus near SF Bay

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Post by calbear81 »

dsl wrote: post #25

I can't understand why the big players like Facebook and Google are not building somewhere like South San Francisco. Most of the employees either live in San Francisco or want to, and the difference in real estate pricing could easily be offset by eliminating half the bus fleet.

I don't think that statement that most of the employees either live in SF or want to is necessarily true and may only be true if you think of those under 30 or are recent college grads. Many folks want to own a home or raise a family outside of the city since it's very cost prohibitive to own or rent in San Francisco.

The argument against South San Francisco is that if you're going to build to be closer to San Francisco, then you should make it easily accessible to SF employees. That means it should be a MUNI ride away so you can get to it from anywhere in the city otherwise you're going to either have to drive or deal with a multi-transfer commute. I would suggest the DogPatch or Mission Bay given the access to CalTrain (as a connector to Mountain View HQ) and the availability of large swaths of warehouses or vacant land.

Re: Google reveals plans for 1.1M square foot, 4 floor ‘Bay View’ campus near SF Bay

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Post by c4urself »

dsl wrote: post #25

I can't understand why the big players like Facebook and Google are not building somewhere like South San Francisco. Most of the employees either live in San Francisco or want to, and the difference in real estate pricing could easily be offset by eliminating half the bus fleet.

I disagree, they're in an ideal location for people from both SF and down to San Jose and Fremont.

That gives their employees a whole lot more choice for housing and makes it more attractive. Every time I see a company that's in SF offering jobs I shudder at the travel time from the valley. It's wonderful if you've already got a place in SF but makes anyone think twice about joining a company when they consider the crazy living costs in SF.

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