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Re: Interactive Vim Tutorial

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Post by shortlived » Mon, Feb 18, 2013, 1:34 PM UTC

mateuszf wrote: post #20

jaequery wrote: post #17

tutorials should teach to use ctrl+[ instead of ESC. it makes a big difference.

ctrl+c is even better (in my opinion). In theory it doesn't work in every place ESC works, but I haven't noticed such places. Also ctrl+j works as ENTER. It does make a big difference to me.

ctrl+c is NOT the same thing. There are some very important operations that do not occur.

Re: Interactive Vim Tutorial

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Post by johncoltrane » Mon, Feb 18, 2013, 1:35 PM UTC

wfn wrote: post #29

achal wrote: post #26

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Yes, it does (except you have to look for it in %programfiles(x86)%, and then it opens in a graphical window that doesn't take your .vimrc/.gvimrc into account)

(It seems that vimtutor on Linux also doesn't take your .vimrc into account; I think that's by design?)

I can't speak for its author(s) but the point of vimtutor is to help you learn Vim's basics in order to be up and running as quickly as possible. From that point of view, it's quite normal to go without special settings and plugins as that would taint the whole experience and learning. Vimtutor is a standardized tool and it would probably loose a lot if it was different for everybody.

By the way, going config-less for two or three days can be an eye opening adventure if you are too infatuated with your config.

Also, what would be the point of running vimtutor if you already have a ~/.vimrc? You probably already know everything it has to offer.

Re: Interactive Vim Tutorial

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Post by edlucas » Mon, Feb 18, 2013, 2:13 PM UTC

AlwaysBCoding wrote: post #22

swah wrote: post #16

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Is your nickname a reference to Glengarry Glen Ross?

coffee is for coders.

F#, that's my name!

Re: Interactive Vim Tutorial

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Post by wfn » Mon, Feb 18, 2013, 2:59 PM UTC

johncoltrane wrote: post #32

wfn wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(It seems that vimtutor on Linux also doesn't take your .vimrc into account; I think that's by design?)

I can't speak for its author(s) but the point of vimtutor is to help you learn Vim's basics in order to be up and running as quickly as possible. From that point of view, it's quite normal to go without special settings and plugins as that would taint the whole experience and learning. Vimtutor is a standardized tool and it would probably loose a lot if it was different for everybody. By the way, going config-less fo…

Yes, that's what I was thinking exactly. And a good idea re: trying to work for a bit without a .vimrc (or maybe re-adding basic shortcuts later on and ending up with a very minimalist vimrc).

Re: Interactive Vim Tutorial

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Post by johncoltrane » Mon, Feb 18, 2013, 3:18 PM UTC

wfn wrote: post #34

johncoltrane wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't speak for its author(s) but the point of vimtutor is to help you learn Vim's basics in order to be up and running as quickly as possible. From that point of view, it's quite normal to go without special settings and plugins as that would taint the whole experience and learning. Vimtutor is a standardized tool and it would probably loose a lot if it was different for everybody. By the way, going config-less fo…

Yes, that's what I was thinking exactly. And a good idea re: trying to work for a bit without a .vimrc (or maybe re-adding basic shortcuts later on and ending up with a very minimalist vimrc).

I have a 15 or so lines long .vimrc that I put on all the VPSes I work on without any plugin. It's great for keeping myself sharp.