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Real-Time Yammer Competitor Hall Launches New Apps

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Re: Real-Time Yammer Competitor Hall Launches New Apps

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A few people at our company signed up for Hall and invited others, causing a runaway chain of invitation reminders that drove our entire team nuts. Not a great way to get introduced to a product.

Hi cal5k....CTO of Hall here. We apologize for the inconvenience. We're constantly trying to optimize the way we send network invitations. We're still working out the kinks and finding the right balance for notifications. You can contact me at ron @ hall-inc.com or if you're on hall, https://hall.com/ron if you'd like us to take a look at your specific case.

Re: Real-Time Yammer Competitor Hall Launches New Apps

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We invested in building a Single Page Application (SPA) which means when you use Hall, click around, the page never refreshes. This helps our customers get things done insanely fast. Imagine if Gmail was a website and not a web app, that's what other enterprise apps feel like IMO. Also, Hall is one of the few enterprise companies that has a true SPA. We ended up building a highly customized framework on top of Backbo…

I'm really not trying to be a dick here. Why do I care about a single page application and how does that make your app 'six times faster than unnamed other solutions'? I fail to see the connection to GMail (I thought you want to move away from the 'why not just email?')? "A true SPA"? I failed to find out what 'SPA' means [1], I thought SLA first but got confused. Nothing personal, but your reply didn't help a bit fo…

Developers probably aren't the intended audience. Yammer, Chatter, Hall, etc are going after enterprise customers.

Re: Real-Time Yammer Competitor Hall Launches New Apps

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How is Hall's "real-time" real-timier than those of Yammer's or a number of other enterprise activity-stream apps? Its pretty much a given that an activity stream app will use an socketi.io-ish messaging systme for real-time updates, some sort of APN service for mobile notifications and a visual tool for in-web-app notifications. What does Hall bring to the table that differentiates it from other Activity stream[1] a…

Hi codenerdz....I'm CTO and co-founder of Hall. Our entire application is a single page application (no refreshing). That immediately makes our product more realtime than Yammer. This includes one-on-one messaging, file sharing, group chat, collaborative notepads, 3rd party integrations and friendship/contact management in multiple rooms and multiple networks. While Yammer may have elements that are RT, our entire world is RT.

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I'm really not trying to be a dick here. Why do I care about a single page application and how does that make your app 'six times faster than unnamed other solutions'? I fail to see the connection to GMail (I thought you want to move away from the 'why not just email?')? "A true SPA"? I failed to find out what 'SPA' means [1], I thought SLA first but got confused. Nothing personal, but your reply didn't help a bit fo…

Developers probably aren't the intended audience. Yammer, Chatter, Hall, etc are going after enterprise customers.

developers think: "oh irc, on _the_ web"

Re: Real-Time Yammer Competitor Hall Launches New Apps

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About time! Besides the hype & price of Yammer, it really sucks at real-time comms for teams smaller than 5-6. I have never had a chance to use it with a bigger team but at that size they have abysmal state management - if you have more than 1 conversation && use more than 1 device = notification_hell. Its just silly how badly they manage this stuff. Just discovered Hall earlier today and so far, so good! Good job @b…

I'm using it at a 100-person office but nobody wants to integrate yet-another-step into their daily processes or have to hop around different places to get different pieces of information (because naturally, John Doe will always want to do it his way if there isn't a policy otherwise or when it becomes too chaotic). It's the same 5-10 of us that make irregular posts and maybe an additional 5 that will occasionally lurk when they remember to. I suspect those people use the desktop client and just always have it running. No one takes advantage of the chat, the secret groups (okay, maybe one team is that I'm not aware of), or the file-sharing. That said, I've complained about the shoddy design and the confusing interface here before, so I'm happy it didn't take off internally.

This has led me to believe that if they're not able to use social features from within the software they're already using (that's already connected to our existing data), they probably won't use them to any effective capacity at all. We run a homebrew CRM, but I don't think slapping a chat or a file system into it will suddenly fix the problem. That said, I think company culture has a lot to do with it too; getting up and talking to people and scheduling meetings with them is highly encouraged here.

That all said, Jive's business enterprise stuff is probably the best in this arena right now because of how much you can do with it and how extensible it is, but I've been asking for us to switch for two years to no avail because management doesn't see the value in constant, but passive, streams of information.

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Hi I'm just wondering what did you use to package your webapp for desktops? Thanks!

stokanic, we started with adobe air which was a quick way to test our hypothesis early on that a desktop app would increase retention. We have since moved on to building native experience w xcode.

Ah, I see you've only done the desktop app for osx and not win. I was hoping you'd use something like CEF[1] and that you'd blog about it

[1] https://code.google.com/p/chromiumembedded/

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