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Re: Silicon Valley job growth has reached dot-com boom levels, report says

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Post by yen223 » Thu, Feb 07, 2013, 5:29 PM UTC

argonaut wrote: post #22

speeder wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I won't move without a solid offer first. (and not for 50k). I have things to take care here, and if I ever move, I need to be stable enough and have money enough to return here sometimes to see how things are going. I cannot just go adventuring and move without a chance of getting a job first.

You can see a bit of the chicken-and-egg problem here. You're not willing to move without an offer. Yet your chances of getting an offer are dramatically multiplied if you do move to the Bay Area, even if only for a few months. Telecommuting has a bit of a bad rap at many companies.

As a guy from a different third-world country, I could point out something: travelling to the US is not cheap for us.

A flight ticket to San Francisco alone costs me about 1 month's salary, and that's before considering living expenses and the painful 3x currency conversion rate. Visa applications aren't cheap, and is a major pain in the ass to apply for.

In other words, I can understand why speeder won't simply up and shift to SF. Simply put, I cannot afford to go the US without a solid job offer.

Re: Silicon Valley job growth has reached dot-com boom levels, report says

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Post by snowwrestler » Thu, Feb 07, 2013, 5:58 PM UTC

beatpanda wrote: post #13

Can some of these jobs please go somewhere else? Pretty please? There's no good reason all of this growth needs to be concentrated in the Bay Area, and it is hurting long-term residents in favor of people who will, in all likelihood, not be here in 5-10 years.

There are a ton of software development jobs open in the DC area. The companies are not as sexy as Twitter or Google, but they're hiring.

Re: Silicon Valley job growth has reached dot-com boom levels, report says

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Post by snowwrestler » Thu, Feb 07, 2013, 6:02 PM UTC

sincerely_ wrote: post #8

There's a tech boom going on in the bay area, and it seems like I'm constantly reading comments here on HN about how companies are having to scramble to find enough people with programming skill to fill the jobs being created. I hope this is true, and I have a related question. Let's say you have a 22-year-old living in the bay with no post-high school education and no programming experience. How far does this boom g…

How does a 22-year-old high school graduate with no programming experience end up on Hacker News? What do you read here?

I'm not challenging your right to be here (I think it's cool)--I'm just curious. I think it would be interesting insight into how Hacker News grows.

Re: Silicon Valley job growth has reached dot-com boom levels, report says

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Post by seanmcdirmid » Fri, Feb 08, 2013, 2:05 AM UTC

speeder wrote: post #20

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So why not move? Ideally, you should compete on a global market. Even an entry level programmer from a good university can do better than that in Beijing.

I won't move without a solid offer first. (and not for 50k). I have things to take care here, and if I ever move, I need to be stable enough and have money enough to return here sometimes to see how things are going. I cannot just go adventuring and move without a chance of getting a job first.

Fair enough. If you are stuck there, you are stuck there and your company probably can get away with underpaying you. You could try to dive into some independent side work like developing good iOS/Androids apps.

And Brazil isn't that bad right? Its a nice place to live, maybe the lifestyle is even laidback. There is more to life than earning money and accumulating things.

Re: Silicon Valley job growth has reached dot-com boom levels, report says

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Post by beatpanda » Fri, Feb 08, 2013, 4:23 AM UTC

dasil003 wrote: post #30

criley wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Startup millionaires driving up housing prices to ridiculous levels, I imagine.

But if you live there then this helps your property values. Otherwise why not live in Detroit?

Assuming you own, which most residents of San Francisco do not. Long term residents are getting pushed out of their homes and have nowhere to go, and the tech community refuses to take responsibility for its part in this.