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I am most interested in the Plex/XBMC support. I have been looking for a small footprint XBMC box with enough power and this seems to fit the bill.

Plex really needs to make an Android app for the TV experience. Similar to what they do with their desktop based player.

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Will Game Stick be far behind? I think both are viable platforms. Actually, I'm not sure "platform" is the right word there since they both run Android.

the gcw zero seems interesting (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/gcw/gcw-zero-open-source...)

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Congrats to everyone on the team for shipping this. You guys are missing the point with the content argument. Developing for consoles has generally been a ridiculously expensive endeavor. This breaks that mold. Also what makes you think that someone won't buy a console just to play one (really good) game?

Developing for consoles has generally been a ridiculously expensive endeavor. This breaks that mold. No, it doesn't. This shows that you can do some consumer facing and software development around an outdated commodity platform and release it. That is nontrivial and the Ouya team certainly deserves credit for it, but it is not on the same level as what Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo do to produce their consoles. And i…

It doesn't have to be exclusive, since this console is cheaper than others. If you want a tiny, stylish, $100 SNES emulator, this could be it.

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My day job is working on an Android application with audio recording and I write games in my spare time, so I've had occasion to look at this. Android's audio environment is end-to-end poor, especially compared to iOS. The native APIs are pretty crude, there's bizarre latency all over the place, and the Java APIs are badly designed, poorly documented, and have absolutely insane failure modes.

Right now, I would recommend iOS (and I don't do that much) for anyone who is serious about audio programming on portable devices.

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That's surprising. Wasn't Minecraft made in Java? You'd think the Android version would work best (after the PC one of course). Sounds to me like they just didn't care that much about the Android version.

Desktop CPUs are something like 10 times faster than the typical ARM mobile CPU. Plus a desktop would run the higher optimized JVM instead of Dalvik. I'm sure it is challenging to get Minecraft to run at a playable level of performance on mobile hardware, let alone drive HD resolutions.

> I'm sure it is challenging to get Minecraft to run at a playable level of performance on mobile hardware, let alone drive HD resolutions.

While there's a lot of Minecraft that's certainly CPU-bound, rendering at higher resolutions has next to nothing to do with CPU speed. The bulk of your rendering work is done by the GPU, and the GPU in Ouya is more than capable of rendering Minecraft at HD resolutions.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Developing for consoles has generally been a ridiculously expensive endeavor. This breaks that mold. No, it doesn't. This shows that you can do some consumer facing and software development around an outdated commodity platform and release it. That is nontrivial and the Ouya team certainly deserves credit for it, but it is not on the same level as what Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo do to produce their consoles. And i…

It doesn't have to be exclusive, since this console is cheaper than others. If you want a tiny, stylish, $100 SNES emulator, this could be it.

That's a good point, but if that's the way their product ends up being used, the company is looking at a rough road. Obviously I have no privileged information on their operations, but the BOM for their console is not leaving much in the way of a profit margin on hardware. So I have to think they're banking on people buying games and making their bones off of that. If people use the machines just as emulator boxes, I would bet that the Ouya folks have cause for alarm.

They're giving away the razor here, and their blades aren't better than anyone else's.

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It doesn't have to be exclusive, since this console is cheaper than others. If you want a tiny, stylish, $100 SNES emulator, this could be it.

That's a good point, but if that's the way their product ends up being used, the company is looking at a rough road. Obviously I have no privileged information on their operations, but the BOM for their console is not leaving much in the way of a profit margin on hardware. So I have to think they're banking on people buying games and making their bones off of that. If people use the machines just as emulator boxes, I…

Well N64 and SNES emulators have already been announced. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ouya_software

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a good point, but if that's the way their product ends up being used, the company is looking at a rough road. Obviously I have no privileged information on their operations, but the BOM for their console is not leaving much in the way of a profit margin on hardware. So I have to think they're banking on people buying games and making their bones off of that. If people use the machines just as emulator boxes, I…

Well N64 and SNES emulators have already been announced. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ouya_software

That's great, but emulators don't pay the bills. (Which, to be honest, I'm glad for; making their bones off pirating other people's work would be pretty gross.)

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Congrats to everyone on the team for shipping this. You guys are missing the point with the content argument. Developing for consoles has generally been a ridiculously expensive endeavor. This breaks that mold. Also what makes you think that someone won't buy a console just to play one (really good) game?

Developing for consoles has generally been a ridiculously expensive endeavor. This breaks that mold. No, it doesn't. This shows that you can do some consumer facing and software development around an outdated commodity platform and release it. That is nontrivial and the Ouya team certainly deserves credit for it, but it is not on the same level as what Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo do to produce their consoles. And i…

Nintendo has always released low end commodity hardware.
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