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We're hiring - but we probably won't pay you.

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Re: We're hiring - but we probably won't pay you.

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post #19

The "Webmaster" better hope he doesn't pay his attorney either.

It's not libel if it's true! But it may be some sort of fraud / infringement.

Assuming the guy hasn't been paid then whatever contract they had is probably void anyway.

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#32
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assuming he has the ability to do that and hasn't just sent all the code to his client.

If he has been able to change the page source, he should probably be able to remove it.

I guess it depends if the developer was also responsible for hosting the site as opposed to just sending a .zip with .html files in it.

Re: We're hiring - but we probably won't pay you.

#33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course there is, I don't do website design or development for the public anymore due to years of dealing with problems like this, so I understand. It's not very professional however, and makes himself look bad. Just disable the site and remove everything you've done if you want the business owner to answer your phone calls.

Assuming he has the ability to do that and hasn't just sent all the code to his client.

I don't think he has access to the actual website. There's no link to channelsource.org from channelsource.biz.

Re: We're hiring - but we probably won't pay you.

#35
post #25

Somewhat off-topic, but is the term "hiring" generally associated with payment? I've run across some (otherwise very reasonable) gaming websites that periodically post big "we're hiring!" notices...and in the small print you see that there's no actual salary, employment agreement, etc. Really they're asking for volunteers, but they very consistently say they're "hiring." [When I ask what's up with that, they're kinda…

Yes. To hire is "to employ for wages" according to Apple's Dictionary app. Or if you take the British meaning (mostly the same as the American meaning of the word "rent") to obtain use for payment.

> Or if you take the British meaning (mostly the same as the American meaning of the word "rent") to obtain use for payment.

It's the same as the american meaning. To hire is to obtain for payment - whether it is labor or machinery.

Re: We're hiring - but we probably won't pay you.

#36
As much as I hate abusive, powerful people and love it when they get their comeuppance, I have deep reservations about retaliatory acts like this. First and foremost is that it's simply too easy to abuse.

But I understand. Our justice system is priced out of reach for most people. (Although small claims court might be a good option for these guys, if the amount owed is small.)

I think that one possible solution would be to simply improve the quality, quantity, and fidelity of the complaint. Scan documents and post them. Take video of yourself talking about the problem, and post them too. This is certainly no substitute for a courtroom, and it doesn't avoid clearly fraudulent claims of abuse, but at least it gives the reading public enough information to make an informed decision.

Simply stating on a website that someone screwed you just doesn't cut it anymore.

Re: We're hiring - but we probably won't pay you.

#39
post #19

The "Webmaster" better hope he doesn't pay his attorney either.

It's not libel if it's true! But it may be some sort of fraud / infringement.

Debt collection laws make it illegal to inform anyone about a third party's debt (except their attorney, creditor, a credit reporting agency, and their spouse). It's not libel, but publicly posting someone's debts is still illegal.

Re: We're hiring - but we probably won't pay you.

#40
post #37

My only question is... Why would you want to deal with a curmudgeon? [surely I can't be the only one that snickered when he saw that as the main item of the "webmaster's" page: http://www.alexlucastech.com/ ]

I snickered when I saw how they described themselves, on their incredibly assy low-quality site, as "incredibly gifted programers".
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