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My Web Series Was Suspended by YouTube Without Explanation

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Re: My Web Series Was Suspended by YouTube Without Explanation

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Post by wjhirsch »

Hi Alex:

     Am I correct that the You Tube or Google user, like yourself, pays nothing for the service or space & is therefore receiving a gift? If that is true, than what alleged "right" does the gift donee have to continue receiving the gift?
love PB 01/16/2013 17:37

Re: My Web Series Was Suspended by YouTube Without Explanation

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Post by alexjmann »

gesman wrote: post #30

If your videos are acceptable to Vimeo (they have anal TOS but great technical platform) then I recommend at all times upload duplicates to Vimeo (and someone else). Then register your own URL shortener domain (such alex.je or whatever) and send links to your video through your own shortlinks, such as: alex.je/2013 Trusting your business to single platform provider - no matter how big - is disastrous. With planning l…

Thanks. In terms of marketing the show, I've been pointing everyone to CWATF.com/xxxxxx, so to get back up-and-running, I would just need to upload the video files to a different video platform and re-embed per URL.

I do regret not backing up each video to another platform while I went. The reason was because I wanted to aggregate all traffic to a single platform, in the case that I started to run ads. I guess I could have uploaded them privately on another platform, only to open up publicly should something like this happen.

Re: My Web Series Was Suspended by YouTube Without Explanation

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Post by mitchty »

gknoy wrote: post #29
jacquesm wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the counter notification section of youtube: http://www.youtube.com/t/copyright_counter The final line reads: > We may then reinstate the material in question at our discretion. So it's a toss-up if they're actually going to do something but they will reveal your information to the party that claimed infringement. That seems to be a pretty lousy deal.

Doesn't your account also get wrecked after you've received a certain number of takedown requests, regardless of their validity?

Yeah I believe it is up to 3. So basically 3 cries of wolf are enough to get any youtube account closed.

Seems fair. /joke

Re: My Web Series Was Suspended by YouTube Without Explanation

#34

Post by jamesaguilar »

wjhirsch wrote: post #31

Hi Alex: Am I correct that the You Tube or Google user, like yourself, pays nothing for the service or space & is therefore receiving a gift? If that is true, than what alleged "right" does the gift donee have to continue receiving the gift? love PB 01/16/2013 17:37

Hi, wjhirsch, where did anyone claim they have a right to have their videos on YouTube?

Re: My Web Series Was Suspended by YouTube Without Explanation

#35

Post by magicalist »

d2vid wrote: post #23
pasbesoin wrote: post #16

I'll share my personal response. I suspect I'm not alone in this. Google is incurring and running up against some real trust issues. I haven't always agreed with their decisions, but even when I became discouraged, I'd still glean information and news that showed or hinted at concerned, ethical people behind the closed doors. But... the continuing lack of a public, human interface to their endeavors, and the increasi…

I've been running into bad google experiences lately. I have a work email address that uses google for domains, and my account was completely disabled by google about a week ago with no response yet to my repeated contact attempts. Their error message was not exactly comforting, it included the following: Google reserves the right to: Terminate your account at any time, for any reason, with or without notice. I don't…

Is there any company that doesn't reserve the right to terminate a free hosted email account without notice?

If you want an SLA, you (almost always) have to pay for it. And if you pay for Google Apps, you also get phone support...

In the meantime: IMAP backups. If that's too much of a pain, there are also a ton of services (free or otherwise) which will do automatic backups for you, though you should really (really) make sure you trust them and their security procedures before you hand off access to your primary email account to them.

Re: My Web Series Was Suspended by YouTube Without Explanation

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Post by rexreed »

gesman wrote: post #30

If your videos are acceptable to Vimeo (they have anal TOS but great technical platform) then I recommend at all times upload duplicates to Vimeo (and someone else). Then register your own URL shortener domain (such alex.je or whatever) and send links to your video through your own shortlinks, such as: alex.je/2013 Trusting your business to single platform provider - no matter how big - is disastrous. With planning l…

But what about the loss of ad revenue? I imagine folks are posting to Google because of what can be substantial monthly ad revenues -- which then a content producer becomes dependent on to finance the series and which makes an arbitrary termination like this even more disastrous.

Re: My Web Series Was Suspended by YouTube Without Explanation

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Post by gesman »

alexjmann wrote: post #32
gesman wrote: post #30

If your videos are acceptable to Vimeo (they have anal TOS but great technical platform) then I recommend at all times upload duplicates to Vimeo (and someone else). Then register your own URL shortener domain (such alex.je or whatever) and send links to your video through your own shortlinks, such as: alex.je/2013 Trusting your business to single platform provider - no matter how big - is disastrous. With planning l…

Thanks. In terms of marketing the show, I've been pointing everyone to CWATF.com/xxxxxx, so to get back up-and-running, I would just need to upload the video files to a different video platform and re-embed per URL. I do regret not backing up each video to another platform while I went. The reason was because I wanted to aggregate all traffic to a single platform, in the case that I started to run ads. I guess I coul…

Great, so just reupload your greatest hits and most recent ones to Vimeo (or whoever) and update redirects from CWATF.com. I think your competitors complained to Google using the right terminology. I had similar experience with Google.

The conclusion I saw for myself is to "use platform, but do not rely your business to platform".

Re: My Web Series Was Suspended by YouTube Without Explanation

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Post by rpledge »

alexjmann wrote: post #27
rpledge wrote: post #10

Why aren't you posting your content on the other services you mentioned anyway?

In my experience producing web video content (especially if you plan on eventually selling ads against it), it's best to aggregate it on one platform. And traffic and visibility-wise, YouTube is the place to do it.

I hate to see anyone build a business based on one platform. I haven't looked at your content, but I'm pretty sure the biggest web video producer I know of (Leo Laporte/TWiT.tv) would disagree with your comment. Gain audience any way you can before trying to monetize.

Re: My Web Series Was Suspended by YouTube Without Explanation

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Post by rexreed »

wjhirsch wrote: post #31

Hi Alex: Am I correct that the You Tube or Google user, like yourself, pays nothing for the service or space & is therefore receiving a gift? If that is true, than what alleged "right" does the gift donee have to continue receiving the gift? love PB 01/16/2013 17:37

It would seem to be more of a trade of services - provision of content to Google which they then monetize in the form of advertising, and possibly share with the content generator. Google then keeps the majority (or all in most cases) of the ad revenues to cover their operating costs and profit, or shares a small percentage with certain eligible producers. So, I don't see it as a gift as much as an exchange of services that is balanced primarily to the benefit of Google. Otherwise, why would Google do it? They're a business, not a charity.

Re: My Web Series Was Suspended by YouTube Without Explanation

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Post by mech4bg »

People saying that the service is free and Google owes you nothing are missing the point. If Google continues this practice and makes things worse, then people will lose trust in them, move away from their services, and they will suffer financially. This isn't about entitlement - this is about wanting a service to be good, and giving feedback when it isn't. Also these services are only nominally 'free' - Google makes plenty of money off you by you using them.

I find it bizarre that people think you can't give feedback on a company's bad behavior because their service is free.

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