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Re: 8pen - A new way to write on mobile devices

#31

After trying most Android keyboard, I think the best and easiest way to write is using progressively-learning-predictive-technique like in SwiftKey.

I switched to Swiftkey a while back and like it. The swiftkey flow keyboard is the best of both worlds, swype and the swiftkey.

Re: 8pen - A new way to write on mobile devices

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post #24

This appears to be a variant of a technique known in the research literature as Quikwriting [1] (a type of FlowMenu [2]), which you can still try online [3]. There hasn't been much in the way of evaluation of Quickwriting, but one study found people's initial performance was around 4WPM, increasing to 16WPM after five hours of practice [4]. I haven't used 8pen's implementation (so I don't know how their version diffe…

Agreed, I demo'd Dr. Perlin's Quikwriting for the Palm which back in the day of capacitive touch, one had to put a plastic film template overlay of the glyphs. While novel and innovative, it was unfortunately overshadowed by other keyboarding methods, fitaly et al. That said, 8open efforts while admirable need to be tested against stock 4.2 swipe with autocorrection which i found most satisfactory above all other methods. ymmv

Re: 8pen - A new way to write on mobile devices

#34

I remember using this when Swype was just new. It is very unwieldy and I tried it for a week or two of heavy frustration. The Gesture swiping built into 4.2 is hard to beat. Between the fast two handed operation with good correction and the freaky fast voice transcription, it's hard to want to deviate from the stock keyboard. Honestly, the demo video makes it look painfully slow, even when he's doing a full demo sent…

I thought Swype and Gesture swiping were more or less the same. What's the difference?

Re: 8pen - A new way to write on mobile devices

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did we watch the same video, or am I missing how this is terribly similar to Graffiti?

Lol.. Not sure who downvoted, but the act of writing letters on the bottom of the screen to type it in for you = Grafitti. It may be possible that the trees (not handwriting) are being missed for the forest (writing at the bottom of a touch screen) is nothing new.

The novelty of Graffiti is that it emulates what we write, how we write it in analog form. The motions and shapes made while using this app don't have that sort of relationship. Is gesture typing, or Swype, or Swiftkey rip offs of Graffiti because one traces their finger in a path abstracted from the alphabet?

Re: 8pen - A new way to write on mobile devices

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post #34

I remember using this when Swype was just new. It is very unwieldy and I tried it for a week or two of heavy frustration. The Gesture swiping built into 4.2 is hard to beat. Between the fast two handed operation with good correction and the freaky fast voice transcription, it's hard to want to deviate from the stock keyboard. Honestly, the demo video makes it look painfully slow, even when he's doing a full demo sent…

I thought Swype and Gesture swiping were more or less the same. What's the difference?

Swype only lets some users via a "beta program" use the app. It has a cumbersome installer that never works on the first try. I like the style of the stock keyboard as well as a few of the layout nags. Finally, the Google keyboard also includes fast access to the text-to-voice app. That and I think the algorithm is flatly better than swype. (Swype was always more of a gimmick, especially after Gingerbread when the stock keyboard got a big upgrade. Gesture with the Google keyboard is something I use 75% of the time I'm typing)

Re: 8pen - A new way to write on mobile devices

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post #21

Lol, this is hilarious. This is basically Palm OS Graffiti, brought back from the dead and celebrated like innovation. Heck, even the Apple Newton had it before the Palm OS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti_%28Palm_OS%29

Did you even watch the video, you missed the point completely.

Re: 8pen - A new way to write on mobile devices

#38

I remember using this when Swype was just new. It is very unwieldy and I tried it for a week or two of heavy frustration. The Gesture swiping built into 4.2 is hard to beat. Between the fast two handed operation with good correction and the freaky fast voice transcription, it's hard to want to deviate from the stock keyboard. Honestly, the demo video makes it look painfully slow, even when he's doing a full demo sent…

If you regularly write in multiple languages, Swiftkey3 is the way to go.

Re: 8pen - A new way to write on mobile devices

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post #38

I remember using this when Swype was just new. It is very unwieldy and I tried it for a week or two of heavy frustration. The Gesture swiping built into 4.2 is hard to beat. Between the fast two handed operation with good correction and the freaky fast voice transcription, it's hard to want to deviate from the stock keyboard. Honestly, the demo video makes it look painfully slow, even when he's doing a full demo sent…

If you regularly write in multiple languages, Swiftkey3 is the way to go.

I've been using Swiftkey Flow Beta, and it's fantastic! You're right, Swiftkey's killer feature is the way it handles multiple languages without hassle. It is the difference between people hating touch screen keyboards and loving them. If I were an Android handset provider in a multi-language country I would install it by default on all phones. Android would blow all other platforms out of the water in no time then.

Re: 8pen - A new way to write on mobile devices

#40
Interesting idea.

The explainer video is painful, and does most of the things I find painful in videos like that. Slow paced, oddly accented English, very wordy in places, and essentially monotone. No clear promise about what it's going to show you early on -- the first 15 seconds or so made me disinterested. It got better, but normally I'd just skip to something else by then.

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