After the discussion I had with jrockway in this thread[0], I've come to really dislike the Svbtle network and what it stands for. I can't speak for the rest of the community, but I would consider Svbtle branding to be a strike against a blog, and not something that is a sign of its quality. 0: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4993094
Svbtle Funding
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Re: Svbtle Funding
#32I wonder if they're going to try a revenue model that doesn't use ads, I can't see ads fitting the flow of the site overly well if they do go for them.
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#33Either TechMeme got it wrong or the story was edited to remove it but the TechMeme quote includes "YCombinator" in that list. http://www.techmeme.com/130108/p31#a130108p31 Edit: Now says "(including, previously, Y Combinator)"
Re: Svbtle Funding
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was gonna type this but then I saw your post. I don't see where Svbtle is going. What benefit can membership get from joing Svbtle network? well there's only 1 thing i can think of right now is link exposure. and how Svbtle is going to make profit is still a huge question. Ads is obviously not an option because I felt like it's against the philosophy how Svbtle was created.
> What benefit can membership get from joing Svbtle network? I applied (and got in) to Svbtle because of two things: exclusivity and the interface. Svbtle at least attempts to have only high quality writers there, and it was made clear that sometimes, if posts were of low quality, they'd be asked to be revised. There was also talk of helping Svbtle members with their writing through things like copyediting. I haven't…
Assuming they've taken, say, $500k, to get that back from 200 writers they'd need to make $2.5k from each of the current writers. Even doubling the number of writers, that's still $1.25k - 25 months at $50/m.
So actually, to recoup the investment from writers in any reasonable time they'd need to charge more like $100-200/m. I doubt many of their 200 writers would stay in those circumstances. Would you?
Other than charging the writers, I don't see what business model svbtle can support, other than advertising, which would also jar with the way the site is designed, and also with the ambitions of many star bloggers, who typically want to eventually have the option to put their own discreet ads à la DaringFireball on their blog...
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was gonna type this but then I saw your post. I don't see where Svbtle is going. What benefit can membership get from joing Svbtle network? well there's only 1 thing i can think of right now is link exposure. and how Svbtle is going to make profit is still a huge question. Ads is obviously not an option because I felt like it's against the philosophy how Svbtle was created.
> What benefit can membership get from joing Svbtle network? I applied (and got in) to Svbtle because of two things: exclusivity and the interface. Svbtle at least attempts to have only high quality writers there, and it was made clear that sometimes, if posts were of low quality, they'd be asked to be revised. There was also talk of helping Svbtle members with their writing through things like copyediting. I haven't…
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#36I can't help but laugh at this. All Svbtle does is slap a pretty, unified design on the articles of people that have interesting stuff to say. It's very good at doing that and I appreciate it for doing that.
Like Curtis intended, when you see the Svbtle design you can expect something interesting. Most of the articles I've read on it were indeed interesting. However, these articles would also exist without Svbtle, they just wouldn't look the same.
Svbtle's got a good thing going, but future of journalism? Please.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What benefit can membership get from joing Svbtle network? I applied (and got in) to Svbtle because of two things: exclusivity and the interface. Svbtle at least attempts to have only high quality writers there, and it was made clear that sometimes, if posts were of low quality, they'd be asked to be revised. There was also talk of helping Svbtle members with their writing through things like copyediting. I haven't…
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Agreed, I tried to address this with 'at least attempts.' I feel that my last post is not up to the standards of the rest of them, but that's also because I judged it across different lines than normal.
I actually liked that post: what are you unsure about? It felt very straightforward to me.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What benefit can membership get from joing Svbtle network? I applied (and got in) to Svbtle because of two things: exclusivity and the interface. Svbtle at least attempts to have only high quality writers there, and it was made clear that sometimes, if posts were of low quality, they'd be asked to be revised. There was also talk of helping Svbtle members with their writing through things like copyediting. I haven't…
So, are you gonna pay $50/m for this, to make them profitable? Assuming they've taken, say, $500k, to get that back from 200 writers they'd need to make $2.5k from each of the current writers. Even doubling the number of writers, that's still $1.25k - 25 months at $50/m. So actually, to recoup the investment from writers in any reasonable time they'd need to charge more like $100-200/m. I doubt many of their 200 writ…
One of the things dcurtis promised was data portability, and if I had to pay $50/month to be on Svbtle, I'd probably exercise that option.
I have no idea what the business model is either.
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#39It's interesting what Dustin is trying, but I find the utter lack of design personality across the sites to be quite off-putting. It's trying to fix 200+ differently-shaped circles into the exact same square.
> It's interesting what Dalton is trying, but I find the utter lack of design personality across the sites to be quite off-putting. Dalton is the guy behind App.net. Svbtle is a Dustin Curtis thing, I believe.
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#40Personally I would like to learn more about how Dustin used the situation to his advantage, even leading to funding.