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Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil

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Re: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil

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Post by hypfer »

ph4rsikal wrote: post #30
hypfer wrote: post #22

This is a huge success, but it I think also tells us that the EU is further decoupling itself from the US. Slowly but steadily. Which is obviously the right thing to do, but it's interesting that it's not just a hypothetical anymore.

It is indeed a huge success but it also underlines how far ahead the rest of the world is.

I'd honestly rather like to use this opportunity to talk about that this is a success than returning to our regularly scheduled doomer loop.

A rocket launched into orbit from Norway. That's insane progress and worth celebrating.

Re: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil

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Post by BSDobelix »

artisinal wrote: post #19
Achterlangs wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ESA launches French Guiana. Since it is cheaper to launch closer to the equator with the extra speed provided by the earth's rotation.

Really comes in handy to still have a couple of colonies near the equator. It's also better to have the massive amounts of emissions far away from your own population.

>Really comes in handy to still have a couple of colonies near the equator.

>It's also better to have the massive amounts of emissions far away from your own population.

That's the dumbest comment i read since a long time, thanks.

Re: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil

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Post by ericmay »

hypfer wrote: post #31
ph4rsikal wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is indeed a huge success but it also underlines how far ahead the rest of the world is.

I'd honestly rather like to use this opportunity to talk about that this is a success than returning to our regularly scheduled doomer loop. A rocket launched into orbit from Norway. That's insane progress and worth celebrating.

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Re: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil

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Post by smitty1e »

loeg wrote: post #9
MisterMunchkin wrote: post #5

How can it be the first European rocket? There’s the ESA! Are you telling me we have all these organisations and none of them have ever launched from their own continent?

Europe isn't on or remotely near the equator, which is somewhat favorable for launches.

> The German company Isar Aerospace launched its Spectrum rocket from Andøya Space Center in northern Norway today

To speculate, they could be targeting a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molniya_orbit

Re: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil

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Post by setopt »

xixixao wrote: post #25
MisterMunchkin wrote: post #5

How can it be the first European rocket? There’s the ESA! Are you telling me we have all these organisations and none of them have ever launched from their own continent?

Article says Western Europe, but Norway is in Northern Europe. “First rocket to launch from Europe outside Russia” would have been perfectly correct.

In the political sense, «Western Europe» is typically taken to be «NATO Europe», and «Eastern Europe» is «Warsaw Pact Europe». Which is different from a strict geographic definition.

Re: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil

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Post by hypfer »

ericmay wrote: post #34
hypfer wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd honestly rather like to use this opportunity to talk about that this is a success than returning to our regularly scheduled doomer loop. A rocket launched into orbit from Norway. That's insane progress and worth celebrating.

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You know.. the things I get flagged for, and then you post stuff like this.

I'm not even sure what to make out of that dismissal opener other than that you've apparently didn't like whatever I wrote.

Re: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil

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Post by ericmay »

shevy-java wrote: post #27
hypfer wrote: post #22

This is a huge success, but it I think also tells us that the EU is further decoupling itself from the US. Slowly but steadily. Which is obviously the right thing to do, but it's interesting that it's not just a hypothetical anymore.

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> Just look at how today the USA tried to hand over land of Ukraine to Putin

Was it the land that Russia currently controls and Ukraine is very unlikely to retake? There's a spectrum between ideological behavior and pragmatic behavior. If Ukraine gives up this land and achieves peace, maybe it's worth it. I'm not suggesting it definitely is but at least the US is trying to negotiate or find some sort of solution, even if it's not going well.

In retrospect the US should have prepared for war and been willing to fight to uphold what was agreed to with Russia but that would have been a hard sell.

> So, no more support to that crazy country.

Nah Europe will still support it. Nothing will change there. But if you want things to change, we can completely withdraw from NATO, move bases back from Europe where we see fit, and un-sanction Russia while no longer providing support to Ukraine in any fashion and no longer sell weapons to Europe. That would be a disaster for Europe, which is why I tend to think comments like this are either ignorant, or pro-Russia/Iran/China with the intent to further inflame whatever tensions exist.

Re: Private German rocket makes history, reaches orbit from European soil

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Post by ericmay »

hypfer wrote: post #37
ericmay wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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You know.. the things I get flagged for, and then you post stuff like this. I'm not even sure what to make out of that dismissal opener other than that you've apparently didn't like whatever I wrote.

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