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Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by skeledrew »

the_real_cher wrote: post #21
skeledrew wrote: post #19

> We are making this choice because we cannot be confident that SpaceX will use our technology within our terms of service, based on our experience with Elon Musk's companies violating contracts. > After Musk acquired Twitter, now part of SpaceX, the company broke (opens in a new window) the terms of our contract (alongside many others). I have never seen one large company throw another large company under the bus wi…

Sam and Elon have a long standing feud. This is more than just bad blood between companies.

Still, where's the legalese? I'd expect something like this on an individual's blog, not a company's.

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by rgbrenner »

Anthropic already banned xAI for very similar ToS violations earlier this year: https://x.com/kyliebytes/status/2009686466746822731?s=46

So this is OpenAI following suit after Musk admitted to distilling their models.

This was bound to happen once Cursor decided to sell itself to a competing model provider.

It'll be interesting to see if Anthropic applies their ban to Cursor, or if that datacenter deal they signed with Musk changes anything.

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by reilly3000 »

bentt wrote: post #7

While this isn't great for users it seems like a pretty standard circling of the wagons in preparation for the next phase in the battle for frontier AI dominance. Ironically, as a Cursor and Claude subscriber, but not an OpenAI subscriber, this will push me back to Anthropic. I don't feel good about giving OpenAI money directly, but I've found switching to GPT 5.6 Sol now and again in Cursor to be useful. Now I'll pr…

I think they are betting that Astra will be impossible to ignore.

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by reilly3000 »

herrvogel- wrote: post #30
gexla wrote: post #22

I don't see how it makes sense to use models outside of Grok or Composer in cursor unless you like the tooling to such degree that you're willing to pay out the nose for access to OpenAI and Anthropic to use with that tooling. And Codex is regularly scoring towards the top among harnesses, so you might as well use the best harness available for the given model. I'm happy with Grok and Composer in Cursor. If Cursor wa…

Is there a good place for harness comparison/scoring?

https://www.harness-bench.ai/leaderboard.html

This provides a method, but the data looks stale and perhaps a bit thin compared to say, Cursor, or even AntiGravity data.

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by alainchabat »

reilly3000 wrote: post #34
herrvogel- wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a good place for harness comparison/scoring?

https://www.harness-bench.ai/leaderboard.html This provides a method, but the data looks stale and perhaps a bit thin compared to say, Cursor, or even AntiGravity data.

never heard of nanobot. how reliable is this benchmark?

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by nab »

redox99 wrote: post #9

It's always been clear to me that Cursor's business model of reselling others' APIs had its days numbered. Not necessarily because the providers would pull the plug, but because you wouldn't be able to compete with subsidized plans. Cursor is already kind of useless for third party models unless you're willing to spend thousands of dollars. It's only worth it if you're going to use mostly grok/composer.

Agreed. Wrapping token spend is great for pumping your revenue numbers (congrats to them on $60B!), but doesn’t seem sustainable over the long term.

Big reason we built https://boxes.dev around the model harnesses (Codex + Claude Code), so you can bring your own subscriptions.

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by SoftTalker »

reilly3000 wrote: post #33
bentt wrote: post #7

While this isn't great for users it seems like a pretty standard circling of the wagons in preparation for the next phase in the battle for frontier AI dominance. Ironically, as a Cursor and Claude subscriber, but not an OpenAI subscriber, this will push me back to Anthropic. I don't feel good about giving OpenAI money directly, but I've found switching to GPT 5.6 Sol now and again in Cursor to be useful. Now I'll pr…

I think they are betting that Astra will be impossible to ignore.

For three months, until the next SOTA model drops. And with each improved model, the number of people who actually need it declines.

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by ronsor »

SoftTalker wrote: post #38
reilly3000 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they are betting that Astra will be impossible to ignore.

For three months, until the next SOTA model drops. And with each improved model, the number of people who actually need it declines.

Exactly. Astra will likely get its Mythos moment, and then another Chinese lab releases its equivalent three months later while Anthropic releases a newer, better model.

Re: Our decision on Cursor following its acquisition by SpaceX

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Post by gnarlouse »

thoughtpeddler wrote: post #26

Spend a lot of time thinking about why individuals shouldn't trust large AI cos, now it's interesting getting to think about how the AI companies themselves don't trust each other. Capitalism is viciously cold and uncaring.

At least capitalism isn't at the center of the most impactful technological revolution in human history.
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