I've been a software dev for 25 years. In the past year I've hand written maybe 10 lines of code. For the first 2-3 months i would read it, then I figured out how to really use AI/code gen and the amount created was more than I could read. I can work on 2-3 projects at once, or 2-3 parts of a larger project at once. More than that I can't keep task switching. The speed and complexity of what I'm able to create is 10x…
Six months of writing code exclusively with agents
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#34Writing code with LLMs takes discipline and is difficult. You need to learn how to do it and how to get the best from it. Software engineering is dead, long live software engineering!
I don't think it'd take more than a few weeks for a high schooler to learn how to prompt well.
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#35First, it takes me ages to describe the task properly. All these clear success criteria, well, instead of writing code from a clear spec in my head, I’m writing tons of prose, and trying to make it unambiguous. I’m programming in English++.
But then, one time in 5, it produces something that kinda works. Maybe not perfect but good enough. Two times out of 5 it kind of sort of looks alright, but actually ignores 80% of the spec, or pays it minimal lip service in the comments.
And sometimes, maybe a bit less than 2/5, it just completely diverges into total shit. Starts writing scripts that load the ast of the main script and pickle it then serialise to base64 for no good reason. Encode some stuff in strings then check ord(string[i]) repeatedly for string comparison. Eventually runs out of context and develops the LLM equivalent of severe dementia.
I truly cannot reconcile my experience with people who seem to say “hey computer write this” and it’s a good use of their time.
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#36I've been a software dev for 25 years. In the past year I've hand written maybe 10 lines of code. For the first 2-3 months i would read it, then I figured out how to really use AI/code gen and the amount created was more than I could read. I can work on 2-3 projects at once, or 2-3 parts of a larger project at once. More than that I can't keep task switching. The speed and complexity of what I'm able to create is 10x…
You serve no purpose here. The AI will soon be able to prompt itself, and it will be better at system design than you.
Good job at making yourself redundant.
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#37I met a few architects/team leaders who wouldn't write almost any code and just technically oversaw things before LLMs got popular, obviously they were very experiencied.
What you have to ask yourself is whether you could oversee a swarm of bots(or people) if you didn't have any coding experience in the first place.
A lot of HN users seem to be, in my opinion, too dismissive about the complexity of creating software. It's true that we don't have to develop in assembly anymore to be a good developer and with time the general level of the entry abstractions that we deal with rises, but, in my opinion once again, it will never change the fact that you need a high number of hours of exposure to something in order to be truly competent to a professional level.
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#38Writing code with LLMs takes discipline and is difficult. You need to learn how to do it and how to get the best from it. Software engineering is dead, long live software engineering!
It really isn't that hard. The LLM needs a few iterations of self review, and you need to ask it for an architecture up front, but from there, it's mostly manual testing to make sure the LLM didn't fuck up. I don't think it'd take more than a few weeks for a high schooler to learn how to prompt well.
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#39AI agents are just software, so the only way to understand them is trial and error?
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#40I don't understand people that say "I no longer code" as a good thing. I think it's safe to assume that if you studied computer science or similar you like to code. If not, why did you even study that? To me it just feels like you want to be a manager not an engineer This is like if a plumber said. I no longer do any construction, I just tell people what to do. Then you probably aren't a builder anymore, you are a fo…
Do architects have to like laying bricks?