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hdiutil is deprecated in macOS 27 Golden Gate

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Re: hdiutil is deprecated in macOS 27 Golden Gate

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Post by doodlesdev »

mschuster91 wrote: post #25
bigyabai wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It’s not super current and not all apps work That's an enormous concession, relative to Windows or Linux.

> That's an enormous concession, relative to Windows or Linux. Windows yes, but Linux... no, at least if it's open source. Closed source apps that compile fully static, these tend to be stable and Just Run in my experience... but open source apps? Good luck trying to bring these to even compile 10 years afterwards without going through an insane dance with Docker...

While that's absolutely correct, you're arguing with a strawman. Take a look at the original quote:

   > I can still use my 12 year old MacBook Air. It’s not super current and not all apps work, but it’s actually still a decent Apple experience.
The point is I can run the latest Linux distributions and software on a 12 year old computer with no issues whatsoever.

You might be able to do that in Windows, if you bypass TPM and CPU requirements or if you stay with Windows 10 extended updates.

You won't be able to in macOS without OpenCore Legacy Patcher and a lot of faith in your God of choice.

Re: hdiutil is deprecated in macOS 27 Golden Gate

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Post by doodlesdev »

select1 wrote: post #15

Totally normal. March of progress. Old stuff goes away.

If diskutil actually did everything OP looks for that was available in hdiutil, that's correct. If you read the post though, you'll see that diskutil has many limitations compared to its predecessor.

Re: hdiutil is deprecated in macOS 27 Golden Gate

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Post by II2II »

DrJokepu wrote: post #5

> To conclude, I don’t understand why hdiutil needs to be deprecated when the same functionality will live on in diskutil. For some reason, Apple seems intent on breaking longtime workflows and scripts. Brother, it’s Apple. Any backwards compatibility is purely incidental.

Given Apple's reputation as of late, I was mildly shocked to learn that I could connect a SATA optical drive to my Mac with a USB-SATA bridge, right click on an image in the Finder, and tell it to burn the image to DVD. This is under the latest beta of macOS.

You can call it incidental if you want, but it generally takes some effort to ensure everything works. That's especially true when you consider how much has changed since optical drives were common.

As for other forms of disk images, such as software distribution, those are still a common thing in macOS.

Re: hdiutil is deprecated in macOS 27 Golden Gate

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Post by [deleted] »

StilesCrisis wrote: post #28

"Despite giving Apple 100% reliable steps to reproduce, they asked me if the issue still occurred in the latest beta, and if it does, then I should submit an iOS sysdiagnose." No one looked at your repro steps, and no one researched your bug. They're just looking to cull the bug list. If you don't respond immediately, your radar is closed.

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Re: hdiutil is deprecated in macOS 27 Golden Gate

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Post by KlayLay »

select1 wrote: post #15

Totally normal. March of progress. Old stuff goes away.

diskutil is for disks (e.g., volumes) while hdiutil is for disk images ("file system as a file"). They're not two versions of the same thing, so it doesn't make sense to dub deprecating hdiutil as "progress."

Re: hdiutil is deprecated in macOS 27 Golden Gate

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Post by cavem0nkey »

mschuster91 wrote: post #25
bigyabai wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It’s not super current and not all apps work That's an enormous concession, relative to Windows or Linux.

> That's an enormous concession, relative to Windows or Linux. Windows yes, but Linux... no, at least if it's open source. Closed source apps that compile fully static, these tend to be stable and Just Run in my experience... but open source apps? Good luck trying to bring these to even compile 10 years afterwards without going through an insane dance with Docker...

Couldn’t agree with this more. Stuff I wrote 25 years ago for NT4 still actually works on windows 10 without a recompile.

The Linux situation reminds me of unix back in the 90s even across distributions.

Re: hdiutil is deprecated in macOS 27 Golden Gate

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Post by varispeed »

DrJokepu wrote: post #5

> To conclude, I don’t understand why hdiutil needs to be deprecated when the same functionality will live on in diskutil. For some reason, Apple seems intent on breaking longtime workflows and scripts. Brother, it’s Apple. Any backwards compatibility is purely incidental.

Any reason to "upgrade"? I am still on Sonoma and don't see a point updating the system.
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