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How to disable or avoid intrusive AI

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Re: How to disable or avoid intrusive AI

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Post by fragmede »

dinkleberg wrote: post #9

I recently discovered that you need to have Siri enabled for Apple CarPlay. I expect we're going to see a lot of this where when you disable the AI functionality the devs won't have put in fallback states and you'll be effectively locked out. With CarPlay for instance there is no reason that I shouldn't be able to listen to my music or use the map without Siri. But things like responding to texts does rely on Siri, s…

With Apple intelligence turned on, when I take a screenshot on my iPhone, it wants me to do this search that goes to temu, instead of the text selection that it used to do. So I turned it off, but I have to turn it back on to have auto translation in iMessage.

Re: How to disable or avoid intrusive AI

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Post by freeone3000 »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #18
freeone3000 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody using it is actually the ideal outcome. AI features are added, at no additional cost to the consumer, to extract money from investors . If customers began using the product, this feature would actually start having an ongoing cost.

Thing with investor money is that after a while the investors start asking where their dividends are at. If you put all that money toward building features nobody asked for, you're in for a rough time.

Woe betide the company cursed with smart investors

Re: How to disable or avoid intrusive AI

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Post by dataflow »

semiquaver wrote: post #21
dinkleberg wrote: post #9

I recently discovered that you need to have Siri enabled for Apple CarPlay. I expect we're going to see a lot of this where when you disable the AI functionality the devs won't have put in fallback states and you'll be effectively locked out. With CarPlay for instance there is no reason that I shouldn't be able to listen to my music or use the map without Siri. But things like responding to texts does rely on Siri, s…

Apple considers siri essential for CarPlay and I don’t really disagree. Don’t forget that a big part of the design of CarPlay tries to explicitly discourage tactile use while driving, with siri as the alternative input/output method.

Is every utilization of CarPlay inside a car performed "while driving"?

Re: How to disable or avoid intrusive AI

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Post by [deleted] »

freeone3000 wrote: post #8
rad-b wrote: post #2

Such a cool guide to such a bizarre problem we live in… Companies forcing features that nobody wants, but that are also expensive to operate and cost real money to run? Market can definitely stay irrational for long.

Nobody using it is actually the ideal outcome. AI features are added, at no additional cost to the consumer, to extract money from investors . If customers began using the product, this feature would actually start having an ongoing cost.

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Re: How to disable or avoid intrusive AI

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Post by john_strinlai »

dinkleberg wrote: post #9

I recently discovered that you need to have Siri enabled for Apple CarPlay. I expect we're going to see a lot of this where when you disable the AI functionality the devs won't have put in fallback states and you'll be effectively locked out. With CarPlay for instance there is no reason that I shouldn't be able to listen to my music or use the map without Siri. But things like responding to texts does rely on Siri, s…

i feel relatively comfortable with carply + basic siri, leaving apple intelligence off. basic siri is pretty limited in scope of what it has access to and what it can do.

while it's an arbitrary line ive drawn, basic siri doesn't feel like "ai" in the same sense as context-aware assistants do for me.

Re: How to disable or avoid intrusive AI

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Post by graceful6800 »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #4
rad-b wrote: post #2

Such a cool guide to such a bizarre problem we live in… Companies forcing features that nobody wants, but that are also expensive to operate and cost real money to run? Market can definitely stay irrational for long.

I really do wonder if the market is being irrational or if we just cannot see what they are I suspect that many people dislike AI but are begrudgingly using it. I would put money very few people are completely avoiding it. It's very hard to avoid now anyways. Maybe the AI company strategy is really just "make it so invasive in life it's so difficult to avoid and expensive enough to revert that companies and governmen…

Nobody, absolutely nobody wants or likes overlapping rainbow animated "ask AI" buttons plastered over every available inch of screen space. Nobody wants or likes useful features being removed and replaced with colorful bouncing "ask AI" buttons.

Re: How to disable or avoid intrusive AI

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Post by doug_durham »

rad-b wrote: post #2

Such a cool guide to such a bizarre problem we live in… Companies forcing features that nobody wants, but that are also expensive to operate and cost real money to run? Market can definitely stay irrational for long.

This whole "nobody wants" narrative is getting tiresome. It is provably false, and is just a rhetorical tool.

Re: How to disable or avoid intrusive AI

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Post by doug_durham »

graceful6800 wrote: post #36
bluefirebrand wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really do wonder if the market is being irrational or if we just cannot see what they are I suspect that many people dislike AI but are begrudgingly using it. I would put money very few people are completely avoiding it. It's very hard to avoid now anyways. Maybe the AI company strategy is really just "make it so invasive in life it's so difficult to avoid and expensive enough to revert that companies and governmen…

Nobody, absolutely nobody wants or likes overlapping rainbow animated "ask AI" buttons plastered over every available inch of screen space. Nobody wants or likes useful features being removed and replaced with colorful bouncing "ask AI" buttons.

You can't say that. Also that isn't happening.
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