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Study links GLP-1 drugs to bigger jump in women's employment than a degree

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Re: Study links GLP-1 drugs to bigger jump in women's employment than a degree

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Lookism is pretty serious, folks. Or whatever you want to call it since that one sounds silly. Maybe a makeover should be suggested more often in job search advice? Work on your hair and diet for a few months before you jump ship and you could have better luck.

Relevant sequence from 30 Rock - Jon Hamm lives in "The Bubble"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAQoXOLlvT0

Re: Study links GLP-1 drugs to bigger jump in women's employment than a degree

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The article has a bunch of speculation that’s not in the paper: https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w35387/w353...

One key point:

> Nor do I find evidence of upward job mobility among incumbent workers. Already-employed women do not increase hours, income per household member, or job-to-job moves. If anything, employer changes decline, possibly due to a desire to retain access to health insurance that covers these drugs. These null effects help distinguish a new-match channel from a general productivity or well-being channel

This complicates the idea that it’s just people treating lighter people better. It could well be that a lot of people who take GLP-1s are obese enough where it affects their ability to go out in the world and do stuff, and losing the weight enables people to work.

Re: Study links GLP-1 drugs to bigger jump in women's employment than a degree

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If looks are important for employment how then men find a job? Men are mostly unattractive even compared to not a perfect woman. In terms of looks and style, average man loses to an average woman. Or employers require only women to be attractive?

> If looks are important for employment how then men find a job?

This feels very fallacious. Attractiveness can be important but not the only factor that matters.

Height is a way that men are judged as attractive. Likewise, tall men tend to do better than short men on income and promotions.

Re: Study links GLP-1 drugs to bigger jump in women's employment than a degree

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If looks are important for employment how then men find a job? Men are mostly unattractive even compared to not a perfect woman. In terms of looks and style, average man loses to an average woman. Or employers require only women to be attractive?

Men get the same effect through things that are traditionally masculine. Off the top of my head, things like height, ruggedness, and for clothes you want straight lines (such as with suits, which a well-fitting one has a lot of and a badly fitting one curves around the body and breaks the straight lines).

Re: Study links GLP-1 drugs to bigger jump in women's employment than a degree

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If looks are important for employment how then men find a job? Men are mostly unattractive even compared to not a perfect woman. In terms of looks and style, average man loses to an average woman. Or employers require only women to be attractive?

Men tend to work in less public facing/social career fields. Your appearance doesn’t matter much if you’re a linesman or a welder; it matters more if you’re doing sales or supporting clients. Probably not the entire story, I think people do have different expectations for men and women, but certainly part of it.

Just go to a fast food place. There's a strong tendency to have guys in the back cooking, girls in the front at the register.

Re: Study links GLP-1 drugs to bigger jump in women's employment than a degree

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post #3

Lookism is pretty serious, folks. Or whatever you want to call it since that one sounds silly. Maybe a makeover should be suggested more often in job search advice? Work on your hair and diet for a few months before you jump ship and you could have better luck.

I thought this has always been pretty obvious. It’s just human nature that makes people “judge” by appearances. As long as there is a face to face interview I don’t think someone could claim is not discriminating on appearance. It happens “naturally” and could go both ways but more often the “good looking” and “charming” is rewarded. It’s part of the “life’s not fair”.

Nah, gobs of people will insist to your face, despite direct evidence, that "I can look past it" when interviewing, or "I don't see color"

The world is made of HR departments and executive suites chock full of people who insist they are somehow special and immune to all the things we know about how fallible humans are at making decisions.

It's like how nearly everyone believes themselves to be an "Above average" driver, including the morons who get into an accident every single year because they text and drive constantly.

Re: Study links GLP-1 drugs to bigger jump in women's employment than a degree

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I wonder how GLP-1 treatment would affect men's employment. I think in the case of women, if there's an effect for appearance increasing employment opportunities, it's not surprising that losing weight would help too.

I think there are studies that analyze height vs. career achievement.

Also baldness.
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