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Programmer creates 800,000 books algorithmically, starts selling them on Amazon

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Re: Programmer creates 800,000 books algorithmically, starts selling them on Amazon

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This [1] The 2009-2014 Outlook for Wood Toilet Seats in Greater China seems to be the most reviewed book (35) at 3.3 stars, being sold for $495 USD. [1] http://www.amazon.com/2009-2014-Outlook-Toilet-Seats-Greater...

Probably the best line in the wealth of well-written comments (yes, I'll admit I did read too many):

Also, I didn't like the Scratch N Sniff parts.

Re: Programmer creates 800,000 books algorithmically, starts selling them on Amazon

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post #7

Just what Amazon needs: 800,000 computer-generated books crapping up the listings along with the thousands of on-demand printed copies of Wikipedia articles. Wonderful.

Although, to be fair, while Amazon doesn't need this, it kind of deserves it.

Re: Programmer creates 800,000 books algorithmically, starts selling them on Amazon

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I think only humans can create IP, though IANAL.

Well, when you use a computer to compile your source code it is still protected by copyright. You have affixed your creation to media. (There are some occurrences where you don't have to affix to media to get copyright -- yoga and dance choreography)

Copyright is supposed to protect an expression of an idea. I'm not sure how far you can bend the argument to say that computer reorganization of facts is expression.

For pixar and animations, the end result is an expression of artists' designs.

Can you have copyright without an expressive aspect? Is there any human expression in this output?

Re: Programmer creates 800,000 books algorithmically, starts selling them on Amazon

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post #23

How does it determine the price? By the pound? Amazon should clearly mark these as computer generated. I'll bet most of the purchases are from people who didn't know what they were even getting.

Maybe that random Amazon-buying-bot will end up getting some of these.

Re: Programmer creates 800,000 books algorithmically, starts selling them on Amazon

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post #21
post #2

As formulaic as some series are, I wonder how long it will be until a best seller is "written" by a program?

I guess this is the physical manifestation of the "million monkeys on a typewriter" thought experiment.

It made me think of Sarte’s infinite library, but the reality of these books looks nothing like either.

Re: Programmer creates 800,000 books algorithmically, starts selling them on Amazon

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The index for this book is also useless. It seems to index every word in the text, whether it's significant or not; for example, "September". Also the index has entries for "Nova" and "Scotia", but not "Nova Scotia" (which is presumably where these two words came from). I don't think that real authors would face any significant competition from this guy.

It also would seem to cast a lie to the claim that they are generated "algorithmically."

The context is unclear: what would cast a lie to that claim?

Re: Programmer creates 800,000 books algorithmically, starts selling them on Amazon

#38
In the video it can be seen that a fair amount of what the automated system does is versatile formatting ... in Word and Excel. But why oh why? (Semi)-automated formatting of documents is a problem that has been solved with expert results in LaTeX.

Also deviations in the data are recognized and highlited, but not (yet?) examined and elaborated upon. No doubt this will be possible in the near future.

So, kudos for the general approach. Can't wait for the automated reading programs for digesting these books. And that is meant only half jokingly. The data is there, the general knowledge is there and there is enough reasoning power to draw conclusions. The next step would be to make automated descisions based on the available data, so politicians could join the authors in beeing unemployed...

Well I for one welcome our new text blasting overlords.

Re: Programmer creates 800,000 books algorithmically, starts selling them on Amazon

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Kinda reminds of the analogy about monkeys writing on typewriters, where a million monkeys would in a thousand years come up with something as Shakespeare. I may go out on a limb here, but by the end of the next decade the most popular book of the holiday season might be one that was actually written by a computer...
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