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Cool URIs Don't Change (1998)

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Re: Cool URIs Don't Change (1998)

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Post by phillipseamore »

torh wrote: post #13

Not that long ago I clicked on a link that Microsoft provided somewhere in Windows -- could have been the event log, I don't remember. I do remember it was for a specific support article, but it ended up at a generic landing page for something. I am not talking about a link from Windows 95, it must have been Windows 10. But regardless, it is all gone. Then again, it probably wasn't a cool URL to begin with. It's amaz…

Got an MX4 yesterday and it has a printed card with "Go to logitech.com/mx to get started" resulting in a "Forbidden" error page. This product hasn't even been out for a year!

Re: Cool URIs Don't Change (1998)

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Post by sippeangelo »

beached_whale wrote: post #19
torh wrote: post #13

Not that long ago I clicked on a link that Microsoft provided somewhere in Windows -- could have been the event log, I don't remember. I do remember it was for a specific support article, but it ended up at a generic landing page for something. I am not talking about a link from Windows 95, it must have been Windows 10. But regardless, it is all gone. Then again, it probably wasn't a cool URL to begin with. It's amaz…

Microsoft has a terrible habit of doing that. KB's used to have a predicable URL, they may again, but they keep changing them. Or any of their docs really. It's terrible as those URL's end up in other documents to be killed. This is not really an enterprise friendly way of supporting customers.

I've given up because half the help links in the control panel leads to a bing search without any helpful results at all

Re: Cool URIs Don't Change (1998)

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Post by MarkSweep »

mikepurvis wrote: post #9

Sadly, though: $ curl -I https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/1998/nsf9814/nsf9814.htm HTTP/2 404 content-type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 content-length: 54737 date: Sun, 09 Aug 2026 17:58:44 GMT strict-transport-security: max-age=31536000; includeSubdomains; preload server: Apache

It was removed in 2025 sometime between May 7th and September 11th:

https://web.archive.org/web/20250000000000*/https://www.nsf....

Maybe its removal is related to this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_United_States_government_...

Re: Cool URIs Don't Change (1998)

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Post by [deleted] »

mikepurvis wrote: post #9

Sadly, though: $ curl -I https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/1998/nsf9814/nsf9814.htm HTTP/2 404 content-type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 content-length: 54737 date: Sun, 09 Aug 2026 17:58:44 GMT strict-transport-security: max-age=31536000; includeSubdomains; preload server: Apache

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Re: Cool URIs Don't Change (1998)

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Post by doubletwoyou »

WalterGR wrote: post #4
mooreds wrote: post #2

Great article, lots and lots of past discussion: https://hn.algolia.com/?q=cool+uris

This post is related to (inspired by?): "The original URL for this prediction will no longer be available in 11 years (2011)" (longbets.org) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49228458 186 points | 12 hours ago | 91 comments

The funny thing is that the reason for me posting the long bet was looking through previous posts about Cool URLs. It comes full circle!

Re: Cool URIs Don't Change (1998)

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Post by thephyber »

torh wrote: post #13

Not that long ago I clicked on a link that Microsoft provided somewhere in Windows -- could have been the event log, I don't remember. I do remember it was for a specific support article, but it ended up at a generic landing page for something. I am not talking about a link from Windows 95, it must have been Windows 10. But regardless, it is all gone. Then again, it probably wasn't a cool URL to begin with. It's amaz…

There is no financial incentive for most companies to maintain extremely old URLs. There is no large visible cost known to the project manager at a company who chooses to migrate to a different CMS.

A common solution is to create placeholders at the old URLs with permanent redirects to the new URLs, but that doesn't fix all of the old hyperlinks, so it becomes extremely expensive to maintain backwards compatibility after 2 or more CMS changes.

Re: Cool URIs Don't Change (1998)

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Post by _carbyau_ »

A side effect of the idea that this information can be "permanent" means you should really think before putting it up there.

But today is not that, it is the opposite of that with stuff being put online that really doesn't need to be. This is permaweb vs slopweb.

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