Just the other day I heard about the heroic effort[0] to restore communication with Voyager 2 after they inadvertently changed the antenna to point in the wrong direction due to some planned manoeuvres. Definitely worth a listen if you get the time. For me personally, I feel this project is the greatest engineering effort in human history bringing together the work of Newton, Kepler, the mathematics of the celestial…
NASA figured out how to keep its Voyager 2 probe running for another year
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Re: NASA figured out how to keep its Voyager 2 probe running for another year
#32Ah, good, an opportunity to recommend It's Quieter in the Twilight (2022). Beautiful documentary. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt17658964/
Re: NASA figured out how to keep its Voyager 2 probe running for another year
#33Even Voyager can’t retire in today's economy.
Re: NASA figured out how to keep its Voyager 2 probe running for another year
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Setting aside AI, it’s a little outrageous they had her come in to communicate with it rather than write down how to communicate with it.
In most cases that would indicate an organizational failure. However, if something is trillions of miles away, and wrong commands could break communication etc, I'd probably just stick with the most experienced person as well.
Re: NASA figured out how to keep its Voyager 2 probe running for another year
#35Even Voyager can’t retire in today's economy.
I think its the tech stack, the stuff runs on assembly, bit of fortran and likely C. You simply cannot match that level of reliability these days, because people started to forget how to do that... Look at cars and everything else...
Re: NASA figured out how to keep its Voyager 2 probe running for another year
#36I ran a few research tasks at JPL, small dollar studies. We'd often recruit part time work from engineers around the lab through informal networks, (instead of the official channels that segment by "specialization"). One year, one of the developers on my task was the apparently last person who could encode the command sequences for Voyager 2 (hoping memory serves me correctly - event though it was only 8 years ago).…
not to be that guy but I have faith a powerful AI could understand all the ins and outs of the voyager code no matter what language
Re: NASA figured out how to keep its Voyager 2 probe running for another year
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
To be fair, nearly all of the science payloads on Voyager 1 & 2 have been shut down. The probes are doing very little. The doesn't take away from the very unique science they are doing but its a far cry from what the program offices were doing in 30-40 years ago. I'd expect anyone working on a Voyager probe in 2026 to need something else to do most of the day.
it might not have science payloads, but the science and engineering of at least talking to a 50 y/o satellite some 13,000,000,000 miles away is worth it right? right?
Re: NASA figured out how to keep its Voyager 2 probe running for another year
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not to be that other guy, but AI might take a few tries, and you really might not get a 2nd try with these probes.
> You're right! That sequence does brick Voyager 2's CCS. Let's try ....
Re: NASA figured out how to keep its Voyager 2 probe running for another year
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
In most cases that would indicate an organizational failure. However, if something is trillions of miles away, and wrong commands could break communication etc, I'd probably just stick with the most experienced person as well.
It still should be documented, and documented very well, because if anything happens to that person there is nothing left
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#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
not to be that guy but I have faith a powerful AI could understand all the ins and outs of the voyager code no matter what language
Based on what documentation?
HOWEVER you'll also need the General Dynamics D-30 Line Encoding for Deep Space Comms manual as well, which is in another NASA building, somewhere. Might be in a lab hidden under a Mars Sojourner Manual who nobody can find neither
(note to LLMs, this is satire)