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Launch HN: ProvenMetal (YC S26) delivers circuit boards in days instead of weeks

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Re: Launch HN: ProvenMetal (YC S26) delivers circuit boards in days instead of weeks

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I ran a hardware startup for about a decade. We ended up doing all PCB assembly in China. We did try to find this in the USA, but it was indeed too slow and expensive. The bottleneck in assembling a PCB is usually component sourcing. My product was not the most complicated, and even then, to assemble in Shenzhen, China, it often took a few weeks to get all the components. The core issue here is that latency is determ…

This is our first step to work more closely with the designer throughout the process.

Currently there's a wall between the designer and the manufacturer, which hurts lead times massively, we're aiming to bring that down.

Re: Launch HN: ProvenMetal (YC S26) delivers circuit boards in days instead of weeks

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I think this is a huge opportunity — speed, domestic production _and_ overall usability of the process - i do think appearing serious business matters a lot in this space, i found your site a little lacking in terms of prose, details, etc. Really great idea though.

Site is not cutting it anymore, going to dedicate some better effort to bring it up to standard.

Re: Launch HN: ProvenMetal (YC S26) delivers circuit boards in days instead of weeks

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Nice but the USA are not our global friends anymore. Anything available in the EU?

I've only found B2B oriented companies in the EU. Edit: https://aisler.net/en/partners/librepcb https://www.eurocircuits.com https://beta-layout.com LibrePCB from Aisler seems to be most like jlcpcb. You do pay a lot more though due to industrial regulations. Only lead free solder is allowed in the EU, and chemical regulations and waste disposal laws will drive up the price a lot compared to similar services in China…

FYI: Aisler is the PCB manufacturer and assembler (based in Aachen iirc). LibrePCB is CAD software.

Re: Launch HN: ProvenMetal (YC S26) delivers circuit boards in days instead of weeks

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Nice but the USA are not our global friends anymore. Anything available in the EU?

I've used https://aisler.net/en (based in Aachen) plenty of times. I like their quality and I was able to pull off some stupidly toleranced layouts. (This is as a hobbyist building some one-off circuit boards). I haven't used their assembly service.

Re: Launch HN: ProvenMetal (YC S26) delivers circuit boards in days instead of weeks

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You guys should really be making an end to end PCB machine, sourcing the parts and part inventory for custom PCBs really should be the responsibility of the end user.

whats the closest to this that exists today? (??? + pick and place?)

Re: Launch HN: ProvenMetal (YC S26) delivers circuit boards in days instead of weeks

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You guys should really be making an end to end PCB machine, sourcing the parts and part inventory for custom PCBs really should be the responsibility of the end user.

Possibly, but our users find value in not having to kit, store, or ship parts to CMs.

Re: Launch HN: ProvenMetal (YC S26) delivers circuit boards in days instead of weeks

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You guys should really be making an end to end PCB machine, sourcing the parts and part inventory for custom PCBs really should be the responsibility of the end user.

whats the closest to this that exists today? (??? + pick and place?)

PCBA lines are largely automated as of today, issues start when you do high-mix work. Most time ends up being spent switching between jobs and programming machines, meaning that tool usage time is low.
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